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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:49:21 -0200
From:      Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira <lioux@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Steven G. Kargl" <kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Cc:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG>, ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfiles: lang/f2c (fwd)
Message-ID:  <20011126194943.23688.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here>
In-Reply-To: <200111261841.fAQIfLr53078@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>; from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu on Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:40:58AM -0800
References:  <200111261829.fAQITfh26126@vega.vega.com> <200111261841.fAQIfLr53078@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>

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On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:40:58AM -0800, Steven G. Kargl wrote:
> Maxim Sobolev said:
> > >=20
> > > PLEASE BACK OUT YOUR CHANGE.  YOU BROKE A PORT
> > > THAT HAS BEEN BUILDING FOR SEVERAL YEARS! =20
> > >=20
> > > I am the listed maintainer.  You did not run your
> > > change by me.  Please don't touch my ports.
> >=20
> > Please calm down. You tone is absolutely inacceptable, especially
> > considering that you posted this message to a public mailing list.
> > Even if Mario did something wrong (not contacted you, the maintainer),
> > pollite notice would do the job much better.
> >=20
>=20
> You must have an unlimited amount of time to work on FreeBSD.
> It is unacceptable for someone to break a *maintained port*
> that causes me to waste a half hour of my time to determine
> what the problem was.

Hi,

	I did the change to ports/lang/f2c/pkg-descr
	I was removing trailing spaces in WWW tags. Unfortunaly, it
seems that I overlooked that mistake with your port. I apologize for
that.
	I was merely removing extraneous spaces on WWW tags. I did not
mean to break your port. I did not request maintainer approval since
this was a simple and cosmetic port change.
	Nevertheless, I should have been even more careful with the
change. It seems that the 4 hours I spent checking and double checking my
changes were not enough. For that, I apologize.
	However, I do think that you should calm down a bit. The
port was NOT broken. That was of the reasons I did not request
maintainer approval. WWW tags do not break ports. fenner distfile
survey warned you that there might be a problem with WWW tag which
means that the ports listing on the FreeBSD site could be pointing
to a wrong place. Nothing more; though, I agree this could have
been prevented.
	Nonetheless, this a volunteer project and I understand that
people contribute their free time however little to help. My time
is neither more nor less valuable than yours. So I would appreciate
if you did value my contribution efforts as much as I value both
your and other contributions to the project. You will notice that
I have apologized for the brokeness.
	I would appreciate that you behaved yourself in a more
civilized manner in the future. After all, we are adults and that
is not the way we should interact with each other. I understand you
might dislike what happened but etiquette and courtesy go a long
way.
	I took 5 deep breaths before writing this email. This enabled
me to stick to the point of the issue: I broke it, I apologize. I
thank Maxim for the quick response with a fix. Any other side issues
are meaningless. Furthermore, I will avoid EVER touching your
programs again to avoid such interaction.
	In the future, please read the netiquette. We are humans
and adults, etiquette is demanded from us. This alone would have
prevented me from posting to an open list but since the first came,
I did respond. Please stick to private email if you must.

	Regards,

--
Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature."
Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer
flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org
feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature

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