From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 20:34:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22A91065673 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4868FC0A for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p5B154887.dip.t-dialin.net [91.21.72.135]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69DDF84400D; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:34:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from unknown (IO.Leidinger.net [192.168.2.110]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B374F1184; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:33:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:33:55 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: "Devin Teske" Message-ID: <20110429223355.00004ab0@unknown> In-Reply-To: <000301cc069f$edf8bd10$c9ea3730$@vicor.com> References: <9AD2C0D5-F2A7-4F20-B04A-AF9BFC5918F7@vicor.com> <20110429130820.5056390e@bhuda.mired.org> <000301cc069f$edf8bd10$c9ea3730$@vicor.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8cvs47 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: 69DDF84400D.AF804 X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1, required 6, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00) X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1304714040.65065@PCNNobLe+g1bwDwVL2P7Bw X-EBL-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 02:09:24 +0000 Cc: 'FreeBSD Hackers' , 'Mike Meyer' Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:34:14 -0000 On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:02:03 -0700 "Devin Teske" wrote: > I was thinking that what we ought to do is support *both* numbers > *and* letters. Sounds good to me. > I envision the menuitem numbers remaining unchanged (1-7), allowing > those familiar with the numbers to use them. > > However, as for the letters, I'm thinking that we *BOLD* the mnemonic > in the menuitem. For example (showing bolded items between asterisks): > > 1. Boot *[ENTER]* > 2. *A*CPI Support: Enabled > 3. Boot Safe Mode: NO > 4. Boot *S*ingle User: NO > 5. Boot *V*erbose: NO > 6. *Esc*ape to loader prompt > 7. *R*eboot > > This should indicate to the user, for example if they see that the > "V" in "Verbose" is bolded, that they can press that key to activate > that menuitem. Presented like this a naive first interpretion could be that the letters have to be entered as upper-case. I do not think someone wants to press shift there... Having the characters in bold but the numbers not could also let someone think that only the characters matter. Having a text which tells that the numbers and lower-case characters work for chosing something, may be a solution here. Another solution is maybe 1/[ENTER]. Boot 2/a. ACPI Support... ... but I have to admit that the second solution is ugly. A third solution could be to have the numbers and the characters in bold. Bye, Alexander. -- http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137