From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 7 20: 8:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5CE37B400 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68B9BD2C; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26764; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:08:33 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g3838RW85116; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:08:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Terry Lambert Cc: Ian Pulsford , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Abuses of the BSD license? References: <200204051922.06556@silver.dt1.binity.net> <3CAE7037.801FB15F@optusnet.com.au> <3CAEA028.186ED53E@optusnet.com.au> <3CAED90B.F4B7905@mindspring.com> <3CAEFFAA.91525BB3@optusnet.com.au> <3CAF74A9.135485DA@mindspring.com> <3CAFA609.32DD89E4@optusnet.com.au> <3CB01C27.CA0B2600@mindspring.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 07 Apr 2002 20:08:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: <3CB01C27.CA0B2600@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert writes: > Ian Pulsford wrote: > > > Adding a license is not one a right you get automatically when you > > get a piece of code. You don't need the right (unless the license makes that a condition of "getting" the piece of code). Everyone has already been given license to publish the other person's code (and his work in derivatives) and you'll license your own work in the derivative (under your own license which must be compatible in certain ways). No problem for most licensors who use straightforward licenses (including very open and very closed ones, but not including copyleft-implementing ones). > You can sublicense, depending on the original license of the > code, and whther the new license permits the old license to > remain, or requires that it be removed (in which case, you > can not use the new license for the work itself, only for the > aggregate (if there is one), or if the original author makes > the change. Let's remember that the presence or absence of licensing text may have no bearing on whether or not there is license or a license contract. (And similarly with copyright notices.) The only licenses that really matter are ones that cannot be read; those given or traded somehow. Also, I think that a sublicense is not necessary since the whole world has already been licensed to use the code of interest. A license is only needed for the new part of the derivative. (17USC103: "The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to the material contributed by the author of such work, ...".) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message