From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Nov 1 3:21: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B2937B401 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 03:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsl-212-135-208-201.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([212.135.208.201] helo=wopr.akitanet.co.uk) by jake.akitanet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15zFu5-000Msi-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:20:57 +0000 Received: from wiggy by wopr.akitanet.co.uk with local (Exim 3.21 #2) id 15zFuF-000Byf-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:21:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:21:07 +0000 From: Paul Robinson To: Craig Harding Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Supporting MS IE (was Re: NatWest? no thanks) Message-ID: <20011101112107.F43740@jake.akitanet.co.uk> References: <15328.13403.591620.246277@hyde.lpds.sublink.org> <20011031210224.A710-100000@howie.ncptiddische.net> <20011101095903.B43740@jake.akitanet.co.uk> <3BE126AF.F555A4E0@outpost.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BE126AF.F555A4E0@outpost.co.nz>; from crh@outpost.co.nz on Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 11:40:47PM +1300 X-Scanner: exiscan *15zFu5-000Msi-00*$AK$mZUYAMgVmko9rszmhkjK91* Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Nov 1, Craig Harding wrote: > Paul Robinson wrote: > > > Bank: And when these user's browsers get IE-compatible, we can let them back > > in? > > ... then they came for the Mozilla users, and I didn't speak out because > I didn't use Mozilla. Standards are a Good Thing. Like it or not, IE has become a standard - 98% of the potential customers for any site are likely to have access to it (even if it's not their preferred browser). As a result, to reduce dev. costs we'll develop for MS IE as our target browser. Now, instead of moaning about how IE doesn't do this, or doesn't follow this standard, perhaps, just perhaps, we should put some development effort into Mozilla and other browsers to make them IE compatible. At this point, it is the OSS development community's job to make user's switch by giving them a similar browser experience to IE but without any of the nasty stuff (like it crashing, Passport stuff, etc.). We're a long way from there, but to say we shouldn't start out is ridiculous. Also, you seem to imply that we should all support all browsers. That's rot, and you know it is. How about this then - you can use your on-line bank with any browser you want, but you have to pay, say, an extra $50 setup to fund the development? If you're genuinely happy to do that, tell your bank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message