Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:37:55 -0400 From: Michael Powell <nightrecon@hotmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Famp Server Message-ID: <k6paae$vne$1@ger.gmane.org> References: <1351488821.57168.YahooMailNeo@web162303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <k6mos3$36g$1@ger.gmane.org> <20121030071059.GA10291@external.screwed.box>
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Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > 2012/10/29 16:28:11 -0400 Michael Powell <nightrecon@hotmail.com> => To > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : MP> Perhaps by way of example I can > illustrate: I run Apache as FastCGI with the MP> event-mpm, mysql, > memcached, and PHP in the FPM configuration. It is a MP> highly customized > and tuned environment which is easily obtained utilizing MP> the inherent > configurability of the FreeBSD ports system. > > jfmi: Which of them can not be found in a 'gentoo'? I do not know. Never ran Gentoo. Never had the time to try every 'distro'. Some imprecise and poor wording on my part when I said something about 'all', when I should have said the 3 that I did try. Mistake on my part. [snip] > > What if being a proper sysadm means ability to deploy a package on > thousands (tens of thaousands, etc.) of machines? In formal terms this > means create a package and install on the every machine. This cannot be a > several packages because this makes the whole task less quick and the > solution less reliable. And the creation of such a package can be a more > trivial task for sysadm than the such of a package installation or upgrade > by itself. > > Such a metaport can be a person-scale/company-wide solution, not a public > one so no harm for the general freebsd usage approaches/pphilosophy which > is a kind of a public stuff. I completely agree with this. However, noting the most recent email it looks as if he still hasn't quite got the hang of installing software on FreeBSD yet. I believe there is a chapter in the Handbook devoted to it. One would still need to learn how to install software on FreeBSD in order to make use of a meta port; after all - it is still the same process. I do not think a meta port is a solution for not learning how to install software. My suggestion is centered around the idea that learning to install software is a prerequisite to using a meta port. I think we should be guiding him towards acquiring that understanding, then if such a meta port comes into being he will be able to make use of it as well. I do not disagree with the potential utility of a meta port. This is a 'horse before the cart' situation where one cannot replace the other. We should be helping him learn how to install software. A meta port should be a separate issue of its own, and not be attempting to replace not knowing how to install software. -Mike
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