From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Aug 31 19:56:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB66E04CC7 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA816537A for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9B8B6E04CC6; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFE1E04CC5 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) Received: from nm2-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53E4765379 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scratch65535@att.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1504209246; bh=GVR+poXMapzW2RcgegWA73DMTUg1xZfNBMjENaRA99U=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=UuRPZbM+6a2lijJHUV+IRmJ6Vw8N3sSvFMRqI/773nBX9XjO5DwZE8g/KIzZG1Aq5PxvLOCEFXe4knN/ANPNLi6gdfhGCBMS6dSLMqbrmSz03nejDMmqS4G5g9ErvmbL0zhuA7Vxu4qPSr8NJnoduA/kDxPvTekPIAK7BE8d5w8= Received: from [66.196.81.161] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2017 19:54:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.53] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2017 19:54:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Aug 2017 19:54:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 280478.72729.bm@smtp115.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: zE_RPs4VM1nHL.mansoMlGIsbO3gT7hm1EoSwIsOAqubcgl FjHtsJgDaomot89nr_m4KlRhG3Jb5CZaWuV6IxKLmBZe4FfXZ8RG16LN77ta pRGpw9OuV_ZWyCFOOgex1x2YL1peSuXtwmfTx7vNE2T05w7.AgZXwjrybuDQ zOyExnufiv8lsW3HG02oeUzfDvnDxPXjeM3hAafCRHDattGk8C0YfsRflam8 CWnVL49AAUXP9eUlA3JzKD5Cgo1NxI8d9qQwAkOyuhVovc9CTPMbpa7wAlYb Fp8SO2klGVz5lr2t.CEp9PRCyD91j4p9EjlpO6lv3Y2HYiXNzA3wr30HNivL 8qNCHntHaCTk1jzInivIFvENb5U342oHe7tUCaaMOxqKJ0dHXVubrPHF.aXG .Pqae.Y5oPHoiXHcL9rjspBKBYtnaTNuHSBgtCY2NR5TXGXkihp6y4IOpqP. SO1FR0hm_HZjIVvJDMV0SRX6stwf2tQZEoE6JRDN25KryZ5SeK6v.p6.y7HG 9PYiTAR5_xXExM4XLDwBSR8tzUl0- X-Yahoo-SMTP: pPvqnOaswBBbYZLVYFzvU7GaowLcbNioPp.aF8KvOjZk From: To: Adam Vande More Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: standard locations for port files Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 15:54:09 -0400 Message-ID: <76pgqcptlcrvhuavu1bquknbbdfr8n0cdf@4ax.com> References: <59A82622.4030502@gmail.com> <729F1CC6-9A65-4CDF-B7E5-FB520779FD15@adamw.org> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:56:27 -0000 [Default] On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 13:53:27 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: >On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:41 PM, wrote: > >> Why wouldn't logs be in /usr/local/var/...? Given that all >> other port "stuff" is under /usr/local, what advantage is there >> in making logs an exception? >> > >Because logs shouldn't be under /usr. Why not? The current location wasn't determined by natural law, it was just someone's decision, almost certainly made without much thought at all. It could be re-decided just as easily. There are many advantages to predictability that usually go unappreciated because of how pervasive it is in our everyday lives. To take a somewhat trivial example, we know to look for cream in the milk case rather than the ice-cream case even if we'd never shopped in that particular supermarket before, I'm sure you could come up with thousands of similar ways in which your life is effortlessly made easier by predictability.