From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Nov 23 21:43:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF48A361AD for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 21:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACC621EAA for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 21:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A90B20AA9 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:43:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=dvy1ZAgvzsVRG17 t4b2OI6ESgeE=; b=Bwgo24RycyHwC4sG7MMSgptL5iEJpkztpMOHn2/C5pkoqM+ pZqM7FV/0wInJEzN61UjoU89BNWfTz04krCSNBI/Y8VqE82kWAnri1K1HWaJ91AZ rW0nzNM0XA2nA5/OEyi0/x8yogWUdd+JxyZU3P+8nrN6TrZMbiE0BWZLeAHs= Received: by web3.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 0ACFF100E40; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:43:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1448315015.3831110.448098897.54B341BF@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: yMYQLopO+6BBU+1Sh9926H/AmO+MK397Ld+WX+e8LkvU 1448315015 From: Mark Felder To: Jim Thompson , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando=20Apestegu=EDa?= Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Mark Heily MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-0a80c2aa In-Reply-To: <8FF83C2F-D8CD-4366-A890-7EF605050456@netgate.com> References: <8FF83C2F-D8CD-4366-A890-7EF605050456@netgate.com> Subject: Re: relaunchd: a portable clone of launchd Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:43:35 -0600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 21:43:37 -0000 On Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 02:20, Jim Thompson wrote: >=20 >=20 > > On Nov 18, 2015, at 1:32 AM, Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > >=20 > > Anyway, I agree that if we are going to replace a key component of the > > system we may want to discuss which approach is best (launchd, > > relaunchd, OpenRC, svc, etc...). >=20 > And thus the bike shed begins before it's built.=20 > I hope we defer the "discussion" to a roundtable between the actual authors of launchd, relaunchd, and nosh and the affected parties: * src committers who maintain things in base this will affect * rc.subr shareholders * portmgr (port rc scripts *cannot* break and need a migration path) Lets not let this stagnate for years. Those who write the code get the votes. --=20 Mark Felder ports-secteam member feld@FreeBSD.org