From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 7 01:02:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D0A16A4CE; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 01:02:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D1943D45; Sun, 7 Nov 2004 01:02:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iA714OML039532; Sat, 6 Nov 2004 18:04:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <418D7457.1040806@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 18:03:19 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" References: <200411061126.23666.msch@snafu.de> <20041106152125.GC80167@freebie.xs4all.nl> <200411061803.21539.msch@snafu.de> <20041106173913.GA80837@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20041107003413.GQ24507@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20041107003413.GQ24507@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: Matthias Schuendehuette cc: Wilko Bulte cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gvinum remains broken in 5.3-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 01:02:28 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Saturday, 6 November 2004 at 18:39:13 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >>On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 06:03:20PM +0100, Matthias Schuendehuette wrote.. >> >>>Hello Wilko, >>> >>>Am Samstag, 6. November 2004 16:21 schrieb Wilko Bulte: >>> >>>>On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 11:26:16AM +0100, Matthias Schuendehuette >>>>wrote.. >>>> >>>>>I cannot imagine to deliver/sell CDs with 5.3-RELEASE on it with a >>>>>broken gvinum RAID5 where the fix is available for (roughly) 2 >>>>>weeks now. >>>> >>>>You obviously have NO idea what it means to build releases for >>>>all the architectures etc etc. >>> >>>My apologies if I made you upset... >> >>Oh, not upset. Problem is that there are most likely lots of other >>bugs still in 5.3-R. >> >>Thing is, at some point we just need to call it a day and put the >>generated bits on the ftp-servers. Otherwise there would never >>be a RELEASE.. > > > I can appreciate that the leadup to 5.3-RELEASE has been painful, but > what's the purpose of a release which doesn't work? For a large > number of Vinum users, 5.3 will be a release to avoid. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. Lukas and I discussed this extensively, and the decision was agreed upon. Scott