From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 18:10:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C43C689 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreybouquet@yahoo.com) Received: from nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCB68FC1D for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.62] by nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 18:10:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.18] by tm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 18:10:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 18:10:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 570765.30885.bm@omp1018.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 86536 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2012 18:10:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1351015820; bh=T16imZSpTqbjyiK3gOI9RdwbRd9rYfLGudPEUrXZscY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HpY+HhDH4tHW9cWFvNlcJtKVL2WZDXqbscVEDoDofzMY38y8pO3cKer2ikMrhdRWq1hf3XzSnl/xQEd1isEvHOHfsF4BPDdDcuCfRc6SIH2IGFhsS1umoQ4NV/vloXieusVdr50ljxkEpYZT88PuijeF5lb3LjXLb3TatzGNqmA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mi6xO8iLaFCvXbk9bQXThhsxGJqCr/qr4zF64/IvDRNEKS7GnF7/N56y0aL/JJvkvz4WSkhLyqyPHNoMbT+DVTs4f1pkp2c/gGAkDCXZHaET24m+VawONPvUYyFHIxQHDngM+f2IbXX2r9DvEyIOPhMgJvyYyIWK5UVjQaqI3i8=; X-YMail-OSG: 8Vve4lYVM1lLAjohEoikaf.x2XW3ta85zpYcO2Z0gLoucl5 OZns0OALjRUCQCFHSKuXl01Cj.ijGFk1.EtMGice1oQ.C56YC8iT_xaaDJny unpJRUzWvHBdxbx0eKpY7gOGTQcwrBL3dIuLc5IEzpK5Zb_VvbNlafAV8DFp tDORKZ1mqdqJ3OtE4UCFHMo378wqn4D2NkvdXaxXTf1RmmVywCLTRwwoNO_Q Ri8eGMz72i6F5yh58agKMxMryU7WGOF7Yp5bXq1PzFBL48KudgnYrlLiuQgo nznu.bA3TjQWBqw0tVHNPLhk.pUm.eoQ.vvh8Dn4dkXGSeWcahYjSURmWz6E s4AX3gjKPpYcdiDmdeybinvZEUbbZkPSTH7XiG8VTZmB4SfirtG9ui6qKX.D opVmWWv4zMNfIJhQzuv7YtiPfzGDO817CwEKxxwDQEF4anNSuBGChb0wXg1N XIy8Yz3D48IGQyK61Vwi8TqDnOI36p0.kdtcrE8hgVJ.osZgwHTfS Received: from [66.92.43.99] by web164003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:10:19 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, VGhlcmUgaXMgYSB0aHJlYWQgdGhpcyB3ZWVrIGF0IHRoZSBGcmVlQlNEIGZvcnVtcywgInBrZ25nOiBwa2cgdXBncmFkZSIgaW4gd2hpY2ggaXMgcG9zdGVkIHNvbWUgY29uY2VybnMgYWJvdXQgbWF5YmUgbm90IGVub3VnaCBkb2N1bWVudGF0aW9uIHByaW9yIHRvIHBrZyBiZWluZyB0aGUgZGVmYXVsdCBwYWNrYWdlIG1hbmFnZXIuIFNvbWVvbmUgaW52b2x2ZWQgaW4gaXRzIGRldmVsb3BtZW50IHdpc2ggdG8gYWRkcmVzcyB0aG9zZSBpbiBjb2RlIG9yIHRvIHRoZSBmb3J1bS9saXN0PwouLi4KQWxzbywgSSABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.460 Message-ID: <1351015819.86487.YahooMailClassic@web164003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:10:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Bouquet Subject: RE: thread at the forums this week To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:10:26 -0000 There is a thread this week at the FreeBSD forums, "pkgng: pkg upgrade" in which is posted some concerns about maybe not enough documentation prior to pkg being the default package manager. Someone involved in its development wish to address those in code or to the forum/list? ... Also, I am still concerned about the deprecation of /var/db/pkg files while pkg is default. Could a concurrent option (they still exist) be put in place? For instance, the following pipe: for i in $(find . -type f -name "freebsd_unread*"); do less $i && /bin/rm -iv $i; done Serves to greatly reduce the RSI (keystrokes) while deleting most of a set of files. I've used such pipe many times in the past using the flat files in /var/db/pkg/ as a means to investigate or fixup ports stuff. That would seem to be impossible now with pkg as the default and the files gone... the "find" would have to be recoded to deal with the syntax of PKG ... as well as other more complex stuff later in the pipe, thus whichever problem is being worked on is relegated to a more costly, complex methodology or just ignored (desinstalling a problem set of ports, for example for the latter case). J. Bouquet