From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Sep 17 15:37:05 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09E03E4835 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.netplex.net (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.netplex.net", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Bsh0d4Swzz49Sw; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.localdomain (ip-414b102e.ct.fixed.ntplx.com [65.75.16.46]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.netplex.net (8.15.1/8.15.1/NETPLEX) with ESMTPSA id 08HFauaj002706 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:36:56 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.netplex.net) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.9]); Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Daniel Eischen Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Deprecating ftpd in the FreeBSD base system? Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 11:36:55 -0400 Message-Id: <451538DE-9427-4584-987B-8E4AA26C2981@freebsd.org> References: Cc: Cy Schubert , Ed Maste , FreeBSD Current In-Reply-To: To: Maxim Sobolev X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18A373) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Bsh0d4Swzz49Sw X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6062, ipnet:204.213.176.0/20, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:37:06 -0000 > On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFRe: removing HTTP client please no!!! The current drive to "outla= w" HTTP > coming from companies who see all world via web browser. Totally ignoring > the fact that HTTP !=3D HTTPS in particular in cases where reliability and= > lower complexity of the system takes precedence over on-the-wire protocol > security. For example, many internal APIs of AWS EC2 are HTTP. Agree. And remember the mantra: tools, not policy. -- DE