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Date:      Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:13 -0700
From:      Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Martin Turgeon <turgeon.martin@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM
Message-ID:  <20070618180813.GA13003@eos.sc1.parodius.com>
In-Reply-To: <4676BAF0.4030703@gmail.com>
References:  <4676BAF0.4030703@gmail.com>

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On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:03:44PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote:
>  I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both with 4G of RAM. I 
>  installed FreeBSD 6.2 Release i386 on both of them. Unfortunately, only 3,5G 
>  is recognized on the 860 and 3,3G on the 1950.
>  dmesg on 860:
>  real memory  = 3757834240 (3583 MB)
>  avail memory = 3678318592 (3507 MB)
> 
>  I am facing a difficult decision. Should I use i386 with PAE enabled in the 
>  kernel (I read a lot of warnings using it) or should I go with AMD64? Which 
>  branch should I follow?

Based on what I've read from some of the porters and miscellaneous
others, generally-speaking there's too many issues with amd64 (in the
sense of 32-bit vs. 64-bit compatibility -- not the fault of the kernel
or otherwise) to consider it worth switching to.

I personally don't run 64-bit OSes because most developers still use
32-bit machines and don't have a way to develop/test in 64-bit
environments.

That said, I'd recommend you stick with i386 + PAE, simply for
guaranteed application compatibility.

You'll lose the amount of RAM you're seeing due to PAE addressing for
PCI address space.  I can dig you up a usage map (broken down by how
much is taken up by each portion; PCI, ACPI, etc.) if you want one.
It's for SuperMicro systems, but the general idea applies to most
everything.

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| Jeremy Chadwick                                    jdc at parodius.com |
| Parodius Networking                           http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                      Mountain View, CA, USA |
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