From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 24 22:09:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA25467 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from minor.stranger.com (stranger.vip.best.com [204.156.129.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA25457 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dog.farm.org (dog.farm.org [207.111.140.47]) by minor.stranger.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA19928; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dk@localhost) by dog.farm.org (8.7.5/dk#3) id WAA16196; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:05:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk Message-Id: <199709250505.WAA16196@dog.farm.org> To: jamil@counterintelligence.ml.org (Jamil J. Weatherbee) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN Modems Newsgroups: cs-monolit.gated.lists.freebsd.hackers Organization: FARM Computing Association Reply-To: dk+@ua.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article you wrote: > To be honest with you I thought about this for a few months, If you in the > US the best solution is something like an Ascend Pipeline 50 router (no > firewall) ($599), with a crossover (included) to an inexpensive NE2000 > card ($40). This is about twice as expensive as a Motorola Bitsurfer > (~$300) and doesn't have the analog ports (but if you want isdn for making Actually, I got mine for $100 - some on-line auction had Mac version (refurbished) for this price. (what's the difference between Mac version and PC version? well, you got MacOS setup program (for those who can't type AT commands ;-) and MacOS terminal software. Plus a cable.) A friend has dedicated P50-to-P50 link to ISP. (both ends running the latest software revision from ftp.ascend.com). It shows some weird problems when doing some kinds of transfers (like outgoing scp) from his 2.2.2-R box. Turning off TCP extensions or fiddling with MTU helped, I think; but I am not very sure. So, it looks like Ascend still cannot get IP right. I played with Cisco 776, and I love it; it does all the voice stuff you can think about (it's mini-PBX), does ip filtering, NAT (actually PAT - you can have only 1 external address, but you can map different machines to different ports on it), DHCP, and has unbeatable amount of blinkenlights. You can config your router from DTMF phone. It's more expensive than Ascend, though (used P50 is ~$400). Don't buy 77x (with built-in 4-port hub), as it's arp table has 4 entries. Buy 76x. > voice calls your a wacko anyway). The reason I was willing to pay the > extra $300 were: A. ping time to peer with router = 30ms, B. ping time to > peer with Serial based internal card or external = 100ms (If youv'e ever my Ascend and Cisco ping times are 30ms, Bitsurfr (115200 FIFO) gives 75ms. -- "Books: You can't grep dead trees." -- Dion Favors(?)