From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Feb 1 21:48:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADC1ECCB81 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 21:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (www.covisp.net [65.121.55.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E789F6930D for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 21:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Response to Meltdown and Spectre Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 14:48:24 -0700 References: <23154.11945.856955.523027@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <5A726B60.7040606@gmail.com> To: Freebsd Questions In-Reply-To: <5A726B60.7040606@gmail.com> Message-Id: <92120E50-19A7-4A44-90DF-505243D77259@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.9) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 21:48:34 -0000 On 31 Jan 2018, at 18:20, JD wrote: > I think this blunder by MS-Intel Duopoly could be the poison pill that = will kill both. That seems highly unlikely. It will damage the role of Intel in the = server market fora time, but the trouble is that AMD's behavior has been = at least as bad as Intel's, if not worse, in regards to Meltdown, so = there's not a clearly better choice even though the AMD chips have less = issues. And what other choices are there for server kit? --=20 =E2=80=9CIf you want to get rich from writing, write the sort of thing = that's read by persons who move their lips when they're reading to = themselves.=E2=80=9D=20 =E2=80=95 Don Marquis