From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jan 29 15:56:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ca.caldera.com (mail.ca.caldera.COM [132.147.128.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ED537B402 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22493 invoked by uid 84); 29 Jan 2002 23:56:34 -0000 Received: from dionj@caldera.com by newman.ca.caldera.com with qmail-scanner-1.00 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4121. . Clean. Processed in 0.148012 secs); 29 Jan 2002 23:56:34 -0000 Received: from tahoe.ca.caldera.com (132.147.152.5) by mail.ca.caldera.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 23:56:33 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:56:32 -0800 From: Dion Johnson To: Greg Lehey Cc: Nate Williams , Tony Finch , Dominic Marks , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs? Message-ID: <20020129155632.F15769@sco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg, Yes it is most certainly our intent to free up the ancient Unix sources so that they can be used, essentially, for anything. Caldera asks for some acknowledgement, and disclaims all the usual stuff. I cant completely answer the question about your archives since I have not examined them and I dont know what other taint may be present. But as far as the ancient Unix, and the "AT&T source license" requirement is concerned, I think this part of the problem has gone away. Caldera really does want this to be a happy, open source party of geek fun. We are not looking to trick anyone with secret legal viruses hidden in the code, or dark incantations buried in the fine print. ;-) Write me if anyone has any questions or wants more reassurances. -Dion Dion L. Johnson II - dionj@caldera.com Product Manager for various stuff, and open source advocate at Caldera Intl. 400 Encinal St. Santa Cruz, CA 95061 FAX: 831-427-7986 Voice: 831-427-7565 On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:05:20AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Nate Williams ----- > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:55:04 -0700 > > From: Nate Williams > > To: Tony Finch > > Cc: Dominic Marks , > > Nate Williams , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs? > > X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid > > > >>>>> Now that ancient unix has been relicensed with an old-style BSD licence, > >>>>> is the FreeBSD-1.X cvs repository going to be made public? > >>>> > >>>> Out of curiousity, why? > >>> > >>> "Out of curiousity" :) > >> > >> Kirk was surprised by how popular the CSRG archives CDs are. > > > > I got one of those too. :) > > > >>>> And, where have you heard that it's been relicensed? > >>> > >>> http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/ > >> > >> There's also a link from Caldera's own site > >> http://www.caldera.com/company/news/ > > > > Thanks. I'm going to wait and see what happens w/regards to the > > talking heads on this, and if the consensus is that it's legal to > > post, I'll upload the bits to freefall. > > It's legal. Here's the original message. I'm also copying Dion > Johnson. Dion, as I'm sure you're aware, we took the FreeBSD 1.x > sources offline because they were "tainted" with AT&T code. Now that > 32V is free, there should be no further problem releasing them, right? > > Greg > > > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:03:37 -0800 > > From: Dion Johnson > > To: wht@minnie.tuhs.org > > Cc: dmr@bell-labs.com, ken@plan9.bell-labs.com, grog@lemis.com, > > John Terpstra , drew@caldera.com, maddog@li.org, > > evan@starnix.com, phatch@caldera.com, ransom@caldera.com > > Subject: Liberal license for ancient UNIX sources > > > > Dear Warren, and friends, > > > > I'm happy to let you know that Caldera International has placed > > the ancient UNIX releases (V1-7 and 32V) under a "BSD-style" license. > > I've attached a PDF of the license letter hereto. Feel free to > > propogate it as you see fit. > > > > I apologize that this has taken so long. We do not have a well > > regulated archive of these ancient releases, so we must depend > > upon you UNIX enthusiasts, historians, and original authors to > > help the community of interested parties figure out exactly what > > is available, where, and how. > > > > Many thanks to Warren Toomey, of PUPS, and to Caldera's Bill > > Broderick, director of licensing services here. Both of these > > gentlemen were instrumental in making this happen. And thanks > > to our CEO, Ransom Love, whose vision for Caldera International > > prescribes cooperation and mutual respect for the open source > > communities. > > > > Of course, there are thousands of other people who should be > > acknowledged. I regret I do not have time or wisdom to make > > a list of them all, but maybe someone does, or has. > > > > Anyway, here it is. Feel free to write to us if you want to > > understand more about how/why Caldera International has released > > this code, or you have any other comments that we should hear. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Dion L. Johnson II - dionj@caldera.com > > Product Manager and one of many open source enthusiasts in Caldera Intl. > > > > Paul Hatch - phatch@caldera.com > > Public Relations Manager at Caldera International > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message