From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 23:37:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5342728 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 23:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-pd0-f171.google.com (mail-pd0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 961C4ECA for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 23:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: by pdbki1 with SMTP id ki1so27872900pdb.1 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 16:37:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=FUtuoKh2qWc2T+E4vJ/s1U4B78TbxicnBOXfYDIkjaE=; b=T2zCVSEjGRnxDlle4HJHqF2VKK+fRbaZnIjznF89+3W6H1Q1G30AakCZqx09JXU9vk 9MthsdsEZr0aX7FZJFnrLaBtHN7su+5rXaqsJSPD38C9yKErYK7M2pKQUGOj3RTbLHMi IC5xGF1Z1dW0RVgTFd8ZMJ/0ZH5cEKNXIc4tDudHUS8u8hXt37AjymfO0DbWq8oz27Em pxAbBsUyhv/ZTDHnMl0tQZrc5BHBfPzXcLVblxzDvkF/voCzTGVAL8XctkDLs/CouLFR ewBw79D2KGby4me/VfTvbTHvf0ctRystCP/a/TlbGTXk4UTeRiKnaFhhq0T+ntWKdGK8 5YFw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnJ8HCZQL066AlwdvSz0YGZXioqn1GxzGUG5vhV6XWro1xPCwHgZ3ncM3VYEz82bvSdMBCi X-Received: by 10.70.133.230 with SMTP id pf6mr57785719pdb.56.1432769831278; Wed, 27 May 2015 16:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.64.24.94] ([69.53.236.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mx5sm262409pdb.75.2015.05.27.16.37.09 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 27 May 2015 16:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: ASLR work into -HEAD ? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C4C98686-7800-4870-B2EF-E48E812205A5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <1432743944.20023.12.camel@hardenedbsd.org> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 17:37:06 -0600 Cc: Pedro Giffuni , Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Message-Id: References: <555CADB6.202@FreeBSD.org> <555CC369.1030206@FreeBSD.org> <555FBE83.6080103@FreeBSD.org> <55656245.3000205@freebsd.org> <5565EB16.20208@FreeBSD.org> <1432743944.20023.12.camel@hardenedbsd.org> To: Shawn Webb X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 23:37:13 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C4C98686-7800-4870-B2EF-E48E812205A5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On May 27, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Shawn Webb = wrote: > Good. I'd rather focus on code rather than pointless politics. But then=E2=80=A6 > Our patch is more complex due to per-jail support and the various > weaknesses FreeBSD wanted us to add. HardenedBSD's implementation does > not contain those weaknesses. You=E2=80=99ll get more flies with honey than vinegar. And FreeBSD didn=E2=80=99t want you to do anything. Certain people = wanted certain features or changes. Perhaps you could be more specific, since this kind of = carping is totally unhelpful. Warner --Apple-Mail=_C4C98686-7800-4870-B2EF-E48E812205A5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVZlUjAAoJEGwc0Sh9sBEAYAEP/iL1af7RUs+8x/lbDeA14ON2 AYtJmsEE/TuRroVnQeLuF9W8ZRW9OUZh9KPhntjn7uxHhq4jxxFEWu9CYXa0cqXD eA+FQ9qL4og0/Td9GYipyabC6VtPLEdWopY2bjh/diT5sAHYjU4TnoiPOiSPYIO9 nkAX+srS1PD1fnzjhalzycWdHwU3ec0IuYK2wGeFZoHDNQO15wswuq1nCErgIOHe 97vx7auXrauGrPMs6U0yO259mY48csKhfci8I0vLG1rfvJ3W/zDIfKwnhUiHe25p EB0BTGtSk4mBtEuHVGicIfv0Wc91wmIXhLvrVZ6qZq3SBYqEjatBQM8i1o+lO4dk iMfub2hXEfuwlCGYFbprYhB77qT1YoH0J8YPRRc+g9nB5BNYQNgMsZW9JI8xzZa4 B8BGoa2er/KplfFWACrZwJOK/+j2ahic7zErXXxp59DR+r4V6syqsPbTom9IPVpK XtTBSYHFRs2iny/f8qHW25YJmmWg9Ik/xCkh5IfCjJ2v53Ya0POUwHMvFRVgevlA g6KAg6owEKMaFmM2fk91/fJ9Ry4LCRqFQdOEfivtdnQo3ARjcU39PWle3iVpNxTq 5tSwGzLZga8zo5D5WPaRpf/5fjKVryhZf3pHVKptHtWE5CKqYUFSTSHQG25c7OE8 HRVrA20lTMmIfdhFrNUq =sKZ/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_C4C98686-7800-4870-B2EF-E48E812205A5--