From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 31 10:42:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00831 for current-outgoing; Sat, 31 May 1997 10:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net (shrimp.dataplex.net [208.2.87.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00821 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 10:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03753; Sat, 31 May 1997 12:40:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970531180718.HX14681@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: ; from Chuck Robey on May 30, 1997 11:39:11 -0400 <199705301416.QAA04273@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 12:10:57 -0500 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: ctm Cc: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:07 AM -0500 5/31/97, J Wunsch wrote: >I once tried to convince Richard into providing a CVSup server (and be >it only for registered people, exactly for this purpose), but it seems >he feared the effort. > (Well, he probably doesn't know it takes as few as 15 minutes to get it >up & running... ;-) That was not my previous experience in upgrading. Remember that I am rather conservative on machines which are "mission-critical" (such as supplying CTM feeds). I have not yet switched from 2.1.x. Unfortunately, the "developers" and "porters" are interested in supporting only "-current". As a result, it often takes additional work to make changes on the older setups. If you will supply the necessary config files and pointers to appropriate binaries for my configuration, I'll give it a try. (I still worry about the "abuse" issue, but that is another topic) >The worst part of this game is switching from CTM to CVSup, btw. The >CTM delta format doesn't provide for a timestamp field, but CVSup >primarily relies on the timestamp. > I've once contemplated to extend the CTM delta format, but never got to >implement it. Poul and I once discussed this. There is a slight conflict in the desired behaviour depending on whether you are moving CVS files or plain source files. There is the additional problem that the multiple CVSup feeds are not consistent within themselves. As a result, it is most difficult for CTM to match all of them. I'm certainly willing to discuss the subject.