From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 20 02:00:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507DE16A40F for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24F043CA0 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:00:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=GMk4r/YLLTsLqV5ASbgNoCuKZzpwqt2laYv58cKf71ntYcSLhPrLrkLybupeZuZE; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [208.127.11.96] (helo=wednesday) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Gwqkv-0008JT-0t for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:00:29 -0500 Message-ID: <013001c723da$a1fb1d60$0225a8c0@wednesday> From: "jdow" To: References: <200612191227.kBJCRRLJ054427@lurza.secnetix.de> <4587D1B6.6060500@andric.com><200612191146.45521.joao@matik.com.br> <45882572.7040707@vindaloo.com> <00b801c723be$106ce980$0225a8c0@wednesday> <45887CAF.6010007@vindaloo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:00:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b5711208d9b96685dbac638c7cd61e8b5c8dcc9c3e40bc65a172d39350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 208.127.11.96 Cc: Subject: Re: OpenBSD's spamd. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:00:30 -0000 From: "Christopher Hilton" > jdow wrote: > >>> >>> Spamd does talk to the remote smtp. It does this until it determines >>> that the remote smtp is RFC compliant in the area of retrying mail. On >>> the first delivery attempt it sets up a time window for the delivery >>> tuple: (server, sender, recipient). If it receives another delivery >>> attempt within this time window it modifies a PF table which allows >>> further delivery attempts to bypass spamd and talk directly to your >>> actual smtp daemon. Without this entry remote smtp daemons talk to >>> your spamd. >> >> Features aside I see a huge problem with something called spamd. That >> is the same name as the daemon mode for SpamAssassin. It's not good >> to have duplicated names that way. It makes life difficult when you >> want to run both tools on the same system. >> > > Agreed. Fortunately in this case Spam Assassin's spamd installs in the > wrong part of heir: /usr/local/bin I believe and OpenBSD's spamd > installs in ${PREFIX}/libexec. That does not make it OK. What happens if the SpamAssassin maintainers setup FreeBSD installs to go to the correct part of the heir instead of the wrong part. It's not a good idea. But for the time being its safe. I'd still recommend a change. {^_-}