From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 24 16:53:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00493 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:53:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00318 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:52:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (aeiusrE-25.aei.ca [206.186.204.225]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00226; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359190DD.9EFC0AE5@aei.ca> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:50:53 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake CC: Wolfram Schneider , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New home page design References: <19980624165018.A10393@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19980625052123.12105@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 04:50:18PM +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wosch/w/bsd.html > > The page based on ideas from malartre and John Fieber. > > > > I don't know if we need the 'Getting FreeBSD', FAQ and handbook > > buttons. Comments? > > I think they're handy... if I'm seeing what you're referring to. > It's good to have all those links on the first page. I have observed a > few difficulties though: > > The list box for the countries appears half way down the main body of > text, obscuring part of the paragraph which comes before "Easy to install" > > The links on the left might be easier to read of they had bullets or some > kind of separator. For example, it's hard to get the meaning when I see: > > ... > Getting > FreeBSD > Installation > Supported > Hardware > Current Releases > Ported > Applications > Commercial > Documents > ... > > My browser seems to have been prevented from displaying this page > optimally. All the text is bunched up on the left, and the entire right > half of the browser window is glaring white space. The old page did not > cause this to happen. > > On another machine, I can only see the column on the left and half of > each line of text on the right unless I keep scrolling left and right. > Again, this did not happen with the old page. > > We have discussed the cause and its simple solution a million times. > > Content is *the* most important consideration (and it's good), however we > are supposed to be an organisation that has slightly higher than average > technical competence. I'm not attracted to an operating system written by > someone who doesn't appear to have overcome the beginner's misconception > that HTML controls screen layout. Unless you provide me with the hardware > that the page was designed for, you have no way of knowing what my screen > can do or how my browser has been configured to display HTML. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > I think that my and your version is broken. I really understand the point of Sue now. After a lot of mail ;-) There is many thing I could explain on why FreeBSD.ORG should never use something like that. I propose a new solution. No right and left table. No text on the first page. Except for news. The ¾ of the FreeBSD.ORG main page is text for new user. But I think than that text have nothing to do on the first page. *Maybe* a little text like on the current linux.org site who explain very basic line of the product. (check "What is Linux" on the main page, also the "more" button). I dont like the linux.org page to :-). If new users wants information, they should click on that little text or on a "New User FAQ" or a "You want to know what FreeBSD is?" button. Or a complete New User section. All the FreeBSD.ORG main page should be link and news. Like the digital.com page but without java and so much graphics. And with more links. I dont think FreeBSD.ORG is consulted by a majority of people who dont know FreeBSD, but by FreeBSD user who need something from the FreeBSD page. Of course, there would be a major link for new user or people who want to know more. A more simple page and a concise/global view. Maybe even classified like the yahoo! page. Yahoo! rules :-) Cya Malartre -- -------------------------------------- malartre@aei.ca ICQ #4224434 www.aei.ca/~malartre/ FreeBSD-2.2.6 -------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message