From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Oct 5 15:21:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DE610AF20E; Fri, 5 Oct 2018 15:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@fubar.geek.nz) Received: from fry.fubar.geek.nz (fry.fubar.geek.nz [139.59.165.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C8984BAE; Fri, 5 Oct 2018 15:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@fubar.geek.nz) Received: from [IPv6:2001:630:212:2a8:fd98:5c4c:514a:52ac] (unknown [IPv6:2001:630:212:2a8:fd98:5c4c:514a:52ac]) by fry.fubar.geek.nz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 96CE84E76A; Fri, 5 Oct 2018 15:21:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Andrew Turner Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 16:21:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: Brooks Davis , FreeBSD Net , freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" To: Warner Losh References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:21:37 -0000 > On 5 Oct 2018, at 16:19, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:05 AM Andrew Turner > wrote: >=20 > > On 3 Oct 2018, at 22:05, Brooks Davis > wrote: > >=20 > >>>> Please direct replies to freebsd-arch <<< > >=20 > > FCP-01010 (https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/blob/master/fcp-0101.md = ) > > outlines a plan to deprecate most 10/100 Ethernet drivers in FreeBSD = 12 > > and remove them in FreeBSD 13 to reduce the burden of maintaining = and > > improving the network stack. We have discussed this within the > > core team and intend to move forward as proposed. We are = solictiting > > feedback on the list of drivers to be excepted from removal. > >=20 > > The current list of drivers slated for REMOVAL is: > >=20 > > ae, bfe, bm, cs, dme, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, rl, sf, smc, sn, > > ste, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe >=20 > smc is found in the Arm models (simulators) [1]. I=E2=80=99ve seen it = in the Foundation and Architecture Envelope Models. I assume it=E2=80=99s = also in the other models, but don=E2=80=99t have a license for them to = check. >=20 > Do we currently support those simulators? I see it is in the = VERSATILEPB simulator that QEMU provides. Does that still work? Yes, I boot FreeBSD/arm64 on them in a local Jenkins instance. Andrew