From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Feb 16 12:16:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470F037B491 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:16:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10234; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:57:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr05.primenet.com(206.165.6.205) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdAAARbaaIt; Fri Feb 16 12:57:00 2001 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07081; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:02:20 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200102162002.NAA07081@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Wish List (was: Re: The /usr/bin/games bikeshed again) To: des@ofug.org (Dag-Erling Smorgrav) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:02:20 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca (Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group), mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray), dillon@earth.backplane.com (Matt Dillon), arch@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" at Feb 16, 2001 03:49:28 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Rdist was also discussed. Rdist5, rdist6, and rsync should share the > > same status. Some of us have vendor and FreeBSD systems, use rdist5. > > Others use Linux and FreeBSD system, use rdist6. Others, like myself, > > use rsync. Too bad this discussion just fizzled out with no decision. > > I wouldn't be sorry to see the r* utilities (rsh, rcp, rmt...) > disappear either. I would, I use them. Now if you wanted to shoot perl in the head, I'd be the first to jump on your bandwagon; I _don't_ generally use perl, and for things that need it, it could be a port. Having perl in the base system makes it a pain to run perl on multiple platforms at exactly the same version level, because perl's autodetect stuff in autoconf and CPAN are both too stupid to use the configured paths to get the perl you want from /usr/local (or wherever) instead of the system default. I had a lot of pain with keeping the same perl on FreeBSD and AIX over this, which was particularly bothersome because PERL is not strictly ANSI conformant (it's missing some volatile declarations that it should have), and so the most recent perl compiled with AIX xLC fails to pass the internal perl tests. Unfortunately, you can't mix gcc and xLC objects, since gcc has some gratuitous differences in symbol naming, and can't safely compile some of the OpenSSL and similar code that uses shared object modules. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message