From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 2 4:55:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4089237B503; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 04:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA60881; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:55:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:55:29 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Joe Warner Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD Magazine? Message-ID: <20001002075529.B60850@blackhelicopters.org> References: <39D743C3.4BBDC6F5@uswest.net> <20001001184041.A58830@blackhelicopters.org> <39D7D2AE.3EF062CB@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39D7D2AE.3EF062CB@uswest.net>; from jswarner@uswest.net on Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 06:11:26PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Software publishers are not going to arbitrarily add support for a product. Yes, we know it works, but that's very different from saying it's supported. That's why the Loki Games thing was news; we all know that you could run those games on BSD, but Loki agreed to support it, and to label it as BSD-compatible. When we get enough vendors, the magazine will happen. We'll get enough vendors when there's enough publicity. A magazine would be great for publicity. Sort of a three-way chicken-and egg problem; pick the part you want to attack, and get to work. :) On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 06:11:26PM -0600, Joe Warner wrote: > So then...it's the advertisers we should be contacting and not just > the publishers, right? > > > Michael Lucas wrote: > > > While advertisers do make products that *run* on BSD, they don't > > advertise their products as being usable on BSD. All the difference. > > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 08:01:40AM -0600, Joe Warner wrote: > > > > > > Regarding the long thread that ensued, a while back, after I posted and > > > questioned the possibility of a BSD magazine in print....below is a > > > response I got from one of the editors of Linux Magazine. > > > > > > Why would advertising be such a big problem, since most applications > > > that are made for Linux, will run on *BSD? What products are > > > made for Linux exclusively and won't run on *BSD? > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > Linux Magazine Editors wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you that a FreeBSD magazine would be a really cool idea, and > > > > > > > that there are a substantial number of readers who would support it. > > > > > > > > The problem is the other side of the equation -- advertisers. > > > > Unfortunately, there are not enough companies that make products for BSD > > > > > > > and that would want to advertise those products to support a publication. > > > > > > > > > > > However, don't despair. We are launching a new publication called "Open > > > > Source Developer's Journal", and there will be articles about BSD in that > > > > > > > magazine. The first issue contains a piece on the FreeBSD process > > > > schedualer. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I appreciate your comments about Linux Mag, and I hope that we > > > are > > > > able to provide you and the rest of the BSD community with intersting and > > > > > > > worthwhile publications, even if we can't launch a magazine dedicated > > > > solely to BSD. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > FreeBSD = The Power to Serve > > > ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Michael Lucas > > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > -- > > FreeBSD = The Power to Serve > ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! > -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message