From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 14 18:10:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221D71065696; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2828FC14; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p1EI4xpL049115; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:05:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Message-ID: <4D596ECB.8080404@bsdimp.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:04:59 -0700 From: Warner Losh User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101211 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: miwi@FreeBSD.org References: <20110213124019.GH7840@debian.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Cyril Brulebois , freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, Warner Losh , xorg-devel@lists.x.org, debian-bsd@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: xorg-server/*bsd: moving from hal support to devd support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:10:24 -0000 I'm mentioned this several times now: Get me a spec for what Linux udev provides, and what services are needed, and I'll make a compatible implementation on FreeBSD. While it is unfortunate that Linux didn't pickup my interface that mostly pre-dated its implementation, I expect the two are close enough that it would be easy to do. I've been hampered by not being able to find anything that approaches a specification for udev in the Google searches I've done. Mostly I've found rants about how great udev is, and how horrible all the competition is. While I'm sure that serves some purpose, it doesn't satisfy my need for a clear, and easy to follow specification. I'm hesitant to just write something that matches the Linux code because I don't have any way of knowing what is supposed to be a documented interface, and what's supposed to be a private change on a whim interface. I'm sure it is just a matter of being unfamiliar with the proper terms to search for. Any hints in this area would be greatly appreciated. If something that is "standard," I'd expect to find good docs somewhere, right? Warner On 02/14/2011 10:11, Martin Wilke wrote: > Hi Cyril, > > I cc Warner here, he is the author of devd maybe he can say more about > that. > > > Thanks Martin > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Cyril Brulebois > wrote: > > Hi FreeBSD/X11 folks, > > as an occasional GNU/kFreeBSD porter, I've been wondering what's going > to happen with hal going away/being unmaintained. I've been pointed to > a blog post about Xfce on *BSD [1], where it is mentioned that devd > might be used as a udev equivalent. > > 1. http://gezeiten.org/post/2011/01/Xfce-4.8-on-BSD-flavors > > Are there any plans to add devd support to xorg on your side? I'm > putting the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD users/porters list and the Xorg devel > list in Cc. > > KiBi. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk1X0TMACgkQeGfVPHR5Nd0riACg0Lg37SQgDOQgrcsr3YsqG5JL > MPkAoML3EAVzVMORW9sa똉�轓� > =TZPU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >