From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Oct 29 16:37:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22884 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22879 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:37:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (root@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA49562; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:37:14 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA17027; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:37:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:36:58 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Wes Peters cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Let's get back on track. In-Reply-To: <3638F6A9.1D526912@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Wes Peters wrote: >Scott Mitchell wrote: > >> > The credibility of any certification programme won't be enhanced if we go >> > slapping logos all over products that require an inordinate amount of >> > effort to install. If there's a port to automate it all, then great, >> > otherwise you may be in for a nasty surprise when you get the box home. >Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> Agreed. Comments, you others? I almmost posted this myself but refrained after I saw you opinion. I agree. >Yeah, let's see if we can get this discussion back on track. I've thought >about this a lot overnight (instead of staying up all night scribing email >messages ;^) and have decided that branding something that can't be >installed by an ordinary, non-programmer "superuser" is not appropriate. Again, I agree. >You could've knocked me over with a feather! I *NEVER* intended for >vendors to write FreeBSD port kits; I had always imagined this to be the >logical finishing point of the FreeBSD volunteers who test and install >the application in the first place. This is, in fact, what we currently do and I don't think we should change it one bit. >So, let me re-propose the following two categories. I'll use my original >names; we can fight about that later on. I have spawned a new thread to this effect. >Works with FreeBSD: An application that was not written for FreeBSD, but > can be made to run on FreeBSD *reliably.* A FreeBSD > port kit has been developed and posted on the FTP > server that will install the application from a > download or from vendor-supplied media. I can add nothing to this at all. I like it. >Again, the classical example of this is the Linux version of Adobe Acrobat >Reader. Since the port kit already exists, this logo could be awarded to >Acrobat immediately. Yes let's. Where are our artists? >Designed for FreeBSD: An application with FreeBSD binaries and a FreeBSD > installation program, from the vendor. A FreeBSD > port kit (created by FreeBSD volunteers) that auto- > mates the install process in a "standard" installation > MAY be available to simplify installation. I can add nothing to this either. It is short, sweet, and to the point. >The classical example for this category is Communicator. Netscape provides >FreeBSD executables and an install program for FreeBSD; a port kit is >available that will automate the installation. >The reason for two levels of "logoization" is to provide extra recognition >for those vendors who have gone the extra mile and made their applications >specifically for FreeBSD. This applies to Netscape, soon to be for Applix- >ware, and for a number of other really cool companies. Having read every last post on these threads, I think this will be a go. In fact, I am saving this post for inclusion in any subsequent HTMLization for branding. Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message