From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 05:27:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8317C106564A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 05:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B46E8FC08 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 05:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so18530473fxm.13 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:27:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pz+G3GDhn5XyobkU/B0e+49AfN/zJmemohrMEPXk8dI=; b=Y7RJC1822WjUAsRVXq6yRzRhyQrlUZaOUnfHEZ10oySQgXBEH/uxQQT55iSmXTpbRh Ym80e5/KPtOOcwK1KHN8jvmY73OCi5xa3T1MAOFCGIDRD+Z4CgvaGRvtFYPRgfJ72HUh 7413+4TPc6LR5V6+V09mzk36PfY5ZiKKkJ/D4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GiwN8Zh8Xvy21c0VBCfXz02tGIAEO3XKZQ2ad8dtIx43/4p1YaQOlYqQXVm4nH2Hg6 QMwLR9AjBW1/zAnbPIKxrLj/vwMtaHi/PBgnQs2VrSdYz+wx+LVKpRZyXmuf31e8OyBH /Wi+wjNz2pKsfIFBCiKCD/yWi7mynP5IdEj/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.1 with SMTP id k1mr368960faq.51.1294637224973; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:27:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D2A9504.7070109@mittelstaedt.us> References: <20100418191752.GA72730@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <20110107194516.GA28544@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <20110107213643.GA32645@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <20110109110022.GA10789@triton8.kn-bremen.de> <4D2A55F4.6010704@mittelstaedt.us> <4D2A9504.7070109@mittelstaedt.us> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:27:04 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Ted Mittelstaedt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing Luvalley with FreeBSD as dom0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 05:27:06 -0000 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Unless Microsoft makes Hyper-V a cost item, this won't happen. The > situation is like the Firefox/Internet Explorer Chinese finger trap. > Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean, but hyper-V is already a cost item. If you want to run more than 1 guest on Server 2008 r2, pay up. Actually their cost model is quite a bit more complex than that, and under certain conditions unlimited VM's can be run without purchasing more hyper-v guest licenses, but it can be a frickin maze trying to figure it out. I considered that hypervisor when doing the install since it was primarily the Windows guests that needed the performance, but I quit once I ran into all the ways they make you pay. > And VirtualBox is under the same dual GPL/proprietary licensing setup > that Mysql and that Qt uses so even if Oracle stopped development on the > OSE edition, some other group would pick it up. > Well that would remain to be seen. I doubt it's much of a sure thing because the linux community as a whole seems pretty infatuated with KVM(and for good reason, it a nice hypervisor), and if even if there was a fork it wouldn't have near the resources it does now. One of Virtualbox's great features right now is it's superior documentation(Xen I'm looking at you) and it's rapid development. A fork wouldn't replace that, at least for some time. -- Adam Vande More