From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 3 21:22:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1772637B5B4 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 21:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA39388; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:22:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:22:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan W Stehling To: Eric Ogren Cc: jon@welearn.com.au, Doug Barton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world failed In-Reply-To: <03ed01bf9de8$88b1f240$0200000a@dinternet.dyn.ml.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG He is making a good point that the mailing list is a great resource. Many sites ask that you join a mailing list for support, but typically most sites offer current information on their sites and the mailing lists simply augment that information. It is the opposite for the freebsd.org site. The site is a bit behind the release version while the really useful information is in the mailing list discussions. I personally do not like being on a mailing list for very long because it ends up like it has today. I get over 200 emails in one day and send out at least 20 as questions or as replies. It is not very efficient. What if nobody answers your question? What if someone does but you did not get an answer for two days? I prefer to rely on documentation that I can find and read right away and get the job done. I also like to print out documentation and have it on hand when I have the box in single user mode. I find that more tangible and helpful, but the reality of the situation is to wait a couple of months when the documentation has caught up and various bugs have been worked out. Brennan Stehling - web developer and sys admin projects: www.onmilwaukee.com | www.sncalumni.com fortune: We gave you an atomic bomb, what do you want, mermaids? -- I. I. Rabi to the Atomic Energy Commission On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Eric Ogren wrote: > so much for only one message > Sorry for the ugly formatting; I'm trying to write a paper while reading my > email at the same time (which > probably isn't the smartest idea). > > Hi- > > > > Right at the very top of that page, in bold > > > letters > > > > NO IT DOES NOT .. get your facts straight before you blow > > somebodies head of for asking a most reasonable question in a > > polite and alltogether reasonable manner. > > > From http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/current-stable.html: > > 18.2.2.3. Using FreeBSD-STABLE > 1. Join the FreeBSD-stable mailing list . This > will keep you informed of build-dependencies that may appear in stable or > any other issues requiring special attention. Developers will also make > announcements in this mailing list when they are contemplating some > controversial fix or update, giving the users a chance to respond if they > have any issues to raise concerning the proposed change. > > Sorry, but I don't see how this could be any more clear. Our docs certainly > aren't perfect, and people > have pointed out some examples of problems, but what about the above passage > is mystifing? > > Doug may be taking a somewhat harsh tone, but the stuff he is saying is > true. > > Eric > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message