From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Apr 4 23:42:12 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEE52A6742 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 23:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48vtcs3Xnwz43TD for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 23:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1586043715; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=/bw8KoxR48t8X0DfV6P53X+ybiw=; b=l5YpJf+pP0/Qw5tNlq3kNzeWGUq4ZqNsdI9z87EZ+Az0PVJJj+BNuvPNj2jrcTcZ AdFbNBz0jrruBxyENmBRmQHgR02tObIQO57KIZROqQcCDA0hg/WsleMmq8tY8J3a zCB6dPFeBh8BN3xQhc6xg+D3y22WAAwjXDjQ1VYu4dhJtw+szlf1CohRNgpSTrBt wZxZTQ0La18q0yot+dfMjAVX4eYuTu2dQEASXeFJJM3js0+vOA4nypw+F86LHLLy fdBndLtoPVZWCV9rZq5XpYWs7S1LAstXxzntaC9CQYC4G2qiud1DfMLzXdaACB6w Oih4HKf4TEXaOzTtoMJ4oA==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=Irpgj43g c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=cl8xLZFz6L8A:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=owmHP-fkYfze84ebbLgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:56025] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id C4/62-07546-34B198E5; Sat, 04 Apr 2020 19:41:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <24201.6978.579552.849799@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 19:41:54 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: Jonathan Chen Cc: ajtiM , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Serpent7776 Subject: Re: qt5-webengine In-Reply-To: References: <20200404101044.76e34919@dismail.de> <20200404142103.GA74752@elch.exwg.net> <20200404111553.6511f6ac@dismail.de> <20200404173325.6b156762@DaemONX> <20200404144231.0d05bdf1@dismail.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.3 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48vtcs3Xnwz43TD X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=l5YpJf+p; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 69.168.97.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-1.48)[ip: (-8.90), ipnet: 69.168.97.0/24(0.81), asn: 36271(0.77), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[rcn.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[78.97.168.69.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2020 23:42:12 -0000 Jonathan Chen writes: > Frankly speaking, if you're compiling your own ports, you > have to use either synth or poudriere; anything else will cost you > time hunting down broken dependencies. Speaking as someone who's been compiling from ports for at least a decade, and maintains 1200+ ports on at least one box: Yes ... but not much. I use portmaster and stuff mostly Just Works(tm). [Thanks, guys!] Ports get updated regularly, and the last major problem I can remember had to do with defauly version bumps in perl and python (2->3). I understand there are folks for whom poudriere or synth are The Right Tool(tm). But I am one of a number of folks for whom it is like carpet-bombing the neighborhood to get rid of one miscreant squirrel. Respectfully, Robert Huff