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Date:      Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:57:58 -0500 (EST)
From:      Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
To:        "Russell L. Carter" <rcarter@pinyon.org>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: compiling on nfs directories
Message-ID:  <156986383.574215.1418947078905.JavaMail.root@uoguelph.ca>
In-Reply-To: <5493040A.6040209@pinyon.org>

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Russell L. Carter wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/18/14 08:37, Adam Vande More wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Russell L. Carter
> >> <rcarter@pinyon.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 12/17/14 18:30, Adam McDougall wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/17/2014 19:47, Russell L. Carter wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 12/17/14 16:07, Rick Macklem wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> If this is using an exported ZFS volume, it would be nice if
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>> could do the same test using an exported UFS file system, to
> >>>>>> see if
> >>>>>> this is ZFS related.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is indeed using exported ZFS filesystems, but unfortunately
> >>>>> I have
> >>>>> no USF filesystems available to test.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Russell
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you create a zvol, newfs it with ufs and export it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Maybe.  I would love to help if I can, w/o disrupting my existing
> >>> carefully planned physical disk layouts.  I'm a zfs novice here,
> >>> do I
> >>> need free space unallocated to existing zpools, or can I shrink
> >>> an
> >>> existing pool?  (assuming that zfs can transmute lead into gold,
> >>> with
> >>> the right incantations).  I have plenty of "free" space allocated
> >>> to
> >>> existing pools that span my physical drives.
> >>>
> >>> If I have to add a physical drive (that's possible, but it will
> >>> be a
> >>> slow drive sitting on my shelf) then I need to wait until I get
> >>> back
> >>> from holiday travels.
> >>
> >>
> >> You don't need to screw with your pools at all.  A zvol is like a
> >> managed like a ZFS filesystem, except it's a block device.  You
> >> can
> >> create one and mount it with a command like this:
> >> zfs create -V 8g mypool/myvol
> >> newfs [options] /dev/mypool/myvol
> >> mount /dev/mypool/myvol /mnt
> >
> >
> > Using a flash drive or temporary drive seems like a much more
> > comprehensive
> > test as you can fully eliminate ZFS from the picture.  Which is the
> > point
> > of the exercise.
> >
Btw, avg@ just MFC'd r275401 which is a 1 line ZFS patch that helps to
update time stamps. This one line patch might be worth a try?

https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs/zfs_vnops.c?r1=274337&r2=275401

rick

> 
> Ok, good suggestions, noted, and thanks!  Unfortunately I'm going
> to have to pick this up when I get back.
> 
> Russell
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