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Date:      Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:07:17 -0700
From:      Robert Clark <res03db2@gte.net>
To:        "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@peorth.iteration.net>
Cc:        Robert Clark <res03db2@gte.net>, Josef Grosch <jgrosch@mooseriver.com>, FreeBSD Crap <freebsd-crap@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Services Ltd
Message-ID:  <20010630110717.B69279@darkstar.gte.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010629225137.D69846@peorth.iteration.net>; from keichii@iteration.net on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 10:51:37PM -0500
References:  <20010629151921.A78954@mooseriver.com> <20010629161649.A65663@darkstar.gte.net> <20010629225137.D69846@peorth.iteration.net>

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On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 10:51:37PM -0500, Michael C . Wu wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 04:16:49PM -0700, Robert Clark scribbled:
> | 
> | The have a picture of chuck holding a crescent wrench (adjustable
> | spanner) too. Using that graphic would require asking permission.
> | 
> | Using the name "FreeBSD" would require getting permission too.
> | 
> | So either they've done their homework, or they're looking for a
> | rumble.
> 
> Please do your homework.  Kirk states using the daemon for anything
> other than obscene purposes is OK.  In addition, FreeBSD is not
> an enforceable trademark.

Wow, I didn't know that.

> 
> | Unless the winds have changed, WindRiver or CheapBytes may end
> | up eating them alive.
> 
> How? 

Based on Nik's email, there is apparently some unmet demand in Europe,
so FSL should do well.

> 
> | Are DVD-ROM robust enough for everyday use?
> 
> No, we just watch DVD's and back up onto UFS on DVDROM in FreeBSD with it.

How do you back up to DVD-ROM? Isn't that a read only format?

> 
> Crack smoking and/or crap eating is bad for you.
> 

I wouldn't know about that, I'll have to take your word for it.

> 
> | [RC]
> | 
> | On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 03:19:21PM -0700, Josef Grosch wrote:
> | > There is a notice posted to slashdot about a company named "FreeBSD
> | > Services Ltd" that is going to be selling a FreeBSD distro on DVD. A whois
> | > on "www.freebsd-services.com" yeilds the following 

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