From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Sep 17 19:45:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A12B3EB363 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 19:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gate2.funkthat.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BsnWc6fxrz4VWL; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 19:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 08HJjh2B027559 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 17 Sep 2020 12:45:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 08HJjh0m027558; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 12:45:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 12:45:43 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Warner Losh Cc: Cy Schubert , Ed Maste , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Deprecating ftpd in the FreeBSD base system? Message-ID: <20200917194543.GX4213@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Warner Losh , Cy Schubert , Ed Maste , FreeBSD Current References: <202009171404.08HE4fZj007939@slippy.cwsent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: D87A 235F FB71 1F3F 55B7 ED9B D5FF 5A51 C0AC 3D65 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: https://www.funkthat.com/ X-Resume: https://www.funkthat.com/~jmg/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 17 Sep 2020 12:45:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BsnWc6fxrz4VWL X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.06 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jmg]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.03)[0.031]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[funkthat.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.08)[0.085]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.26)[-0.257]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[jmg@funkthat.com,jmg@gold.funkthat.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:32354, ipnet:208.87.216.0/21, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[jmg@funkthat.com,jmg@gold.funkthat.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 19:45:49 -0000 Warner Losh wrote this message on Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 10:08 -0600: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:05 AM Cy Schubert > wrote: > > > I've been advocating removing FTP (and HTTP) from libfetch as well. People > > should be using HTTPS only. (libfetch could support a plugin that might be > > supplied by a port should someone be inclined to write one.) > > The project isn't going to do that. "tools not policy" dictates that > anything like that should be done in fetch(1) and likely only as a command > line option for people that require a secure connection (or that can > tolerate an insecure one). Do we have a way for the admin/root to set fetch's policy to block FTP and HTTP? -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."