From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 30 06:00:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326D516A41F; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:00:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hartzell@satchel.alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (w094.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F34C43D49; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:00:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hartzell@satchel.alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A397021D9; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from satchel.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2A1216D; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from satchel.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satchel.alerce.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAU60TjD052244; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@satchel.alerce.com) Received: (from hartzell@localhost) by satchel.alerce.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jAU60R8r052232; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:00:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17293.16379.72758.842524@satchel.alerce.com> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:00:27 -0800 To: Martin Cracauer In-Reply-To: <20051129211059.A79771@cons.org> References: <61FBEC57-424E-450F-A775-10E1F5E8DF92@cian.ws> <20051127215510.A17131@cons.org> <1133190443.41553.18.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <438B1F90.3090708@FreeBSD.org> <1133196263.41553.54.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20051128130516.A36114@cons.org> <1133271434.46168.9.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20051129120243.B64864@cons.org> <17292.64661.162502.12034@satchel.alerce.com> <20051129211059.A79771@cons.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 17) "Jumbo Shrimp" XEmacs Lucid X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, hartzell@alerce.com, =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Subject: Re: Building new Athlon AMD64 Socket 939 or 940 machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:00:36 -0000 Martin Cracauer writes: > [...] > I'm no sure I recommend shuttles. They tend to be loud. Users buying > shuttles usually want small *and* quiet and don't realize both are > mutally exclusive and they have to pick one or the other (or a > Pentium-M system). If you want it for transportability, fine, but > don't expect a nice living room citizen. > People (ok, Matthew...) seem to think that it's a neat machine, and is quieter than previous Shuttles. http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2005-11/msg00027.html I'm not looking for a silent pc (aka fanless mini-itx board, etc...), but I'm hoping that with a fanless AGP board and a slow quiet disk I might end up with a reasonably snappy (beat a 1GHz Celeron...) desktop work machine. Matthew was talking about the SN95G5. Shuttle has a couple of other socket 939 systems, but I'm unfamiliar w/ the chipsets they use and that worries me. Could one build a reasonably quiet office machine around the DFI board you referenced (I'm not sure I can buy something called "LanParty"...). Crazy, or should I be cautious, or any other thoughts??? Thanks, g.