From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 17 20:35:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E97C16A421 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CC413C45D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 30918 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2007 20:34:58 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Dec 2007 20:34:58 -0000 Message-ID: <4766DCE6.6000902@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:32:38 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jurjen Middendorp , FreeBSD Questions References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <20071214211008.GA12935@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20071215021349.GF2062@kobe.laptop> <1197850883.4230.3.camel@tomcat.straycat.dhs.org> <4765EC7E.6050704@chuckr.org> <1197866090.6951.6.camel@tomcat.straycat.dhs.org> <20071217084051.GA1121@s062107.tue.nl> In-Reply-To: <20071217084051.GA1121@s062107.tue.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: pdksh vs. mksh info [was: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:35:00 -0000 Jurjen Middendorp wrote: >>> If you're familiar with pdksh, are you also familiar with ksh93, which >>> is (I believe) Mr. Korn's own shell? If you are, I would be interessted >>> in your opinion of the two, any comparisons you might give. >> I've never used ksh93 so I really can't say. There is a NOTES file >> included with pdksh which gives a starter. I created this port a few >> years ago because of some random issue I've long since forgotten with >> pdksh on my FreeBSD box which didn't happen on my OpenBSD box. >> >> tom > > I never used pdksh, but am using ksh93 for quite a while now and have used > bash, too. For some reason i like it better than bash, the vi mode is a bit > better somehow, it feels alot sturdier. It doesn't have those special > variables like $! and !! i believe, but it has alot of neat features like > basic network programming, lots of parameter expansion stuff and is just a > very nice shell :) I havre installed it, and played with it a bit, I admit it's nicer than sh (and I *think*, bash) but the reason I haven't tried using it regularly is because I can't find a nicely set up .kshrc ... if you have one, I'd appreciate a copy. Might be nice, if it's not terribly long, to post it to the list, too.