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Date:      Sat, 20 May 2000 15:05:19 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        Sergey Babkin <babkin@bellatlantic.net>
Cc:        Alexander Langer <alex@big.endian.de>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: further question to bus_alloc_resource 
Message-ID:  <200005202105.PAA54031@billy-club.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 20 May 2000 16:08:47 EDT." <3926F0CF.DA23E3AD@bellatlantic.net> 
References:  <3926F0CF.DA23E3AD@bellatlantic.net>  <20000520013751.A5852@cichlids.cichlids.com> <20000520014352.B5947@cichlids.cichlids.com> <3925E63E.EF415CFF@bellatlantic.net> <20000520114607.A1832@cichlids.cichlids.com> 

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In message <3926F0CF.DA23E3AD@bellatlantic.net> Sergey Babkin writes:
: Well, I suppose unloading drivers makes much sense only in case
: if hardware supports hot-plug. 

And when one is developing the driver, it helps a whole lot to add
unload capability.  kldunload takes 1 second.  reboot takes 120.

: I see the argument of upgrading the
: driver version without reboot as purely theoretical. For driver
: debugging the need to chnage the driver commonly happens after
: the old version somehow wedges the system. And upgrading drivers
: on a running production system is not something I personally would
: do. This is a dangerous operation and if it would cause any problems 
: they would better happen at pre-scheduled boot time, not on a running 
: machines with users.

That's why loading drivers at higher security levels is prohibited.

Warner


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