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Date:      Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:58:09 -0500
From:      GH <grasshacker@over-yonder.net>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: convert libgmp to a port?
Message-ID:  <20010621155809.A34073@over-yonder.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010621131512.A52345@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:15:12PM -0700
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:15:12PM -0700, some SMTP stream spewed forth: 
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 12:44:40PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 01:51:56PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > 
> > > > libbn is already part of OpenSSH; it's a trivial matter to make it
>                                ^^^^^^^
> I meant to say OpenSSL here, of course.
> 
> > > > into a standalone library.  In other words, we already include two
> > > > functionally equivalent bignum libraries in FreeBSD, so one of them
> > > > should go.
> > > 
> > > I couldn't agree more :)
> > 
> > I'm going to word this strongly, mostly because I feel
> > strongly about the underlying issues.
> > 
> > The SSL one is known to be very slow, and was written
> > as a proof of concept by the author.  Please read the
> > release notes; it is seriously slow.  Replacing it will
> > increase your SSL performance significantly.
> 
> I know of no-one who has developed patches to make OpenSSL work with
> an external math library (e.g. libgmp).  The OpenSSL guys are very
> interested in cleaning up their legacy code; you should work with them
> if you are interested.
> 
> In FreeBSD, the only use of the libgmp code is for non-speed-critical
> applications, so replacing it with a less efficient library doesn't
> cost anything.  libgmp will still exist in ports for applications
> which want to make use of a more efficient library.
> 

Am I understanding this correctly?
We currently have implemented a more efficient library than one you
propose expending effort to plug in?

You propose that people remove the currently implemented and more
efficient library and replace it with a less-efficient library of
non-native BSD origin?

Really? This hardly seems like a good idea.

gh

> Kris

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