From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 9 18:53:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25291065670 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B1E28FC0C for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25827 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2011 18:53:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2011 18:53:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=LpzpnqWj97JVnJ2/lLB3t9//4R0aKzL7HnJ10wrjhgaTXQr95izhCrHC2QSnWgBJdnynsq5UMN83jZ7nI5whpGliXKEJTzQ5N+tC03Mq4OVR7rB4ZHTh3h2Grxw6Rq2v; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QUkM0-0007wP-MW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:53:17 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:38:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:38:24 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110609183824.GA33714@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110609005656.GA9183@thought.org> <20110609035313.GA30448@guilt.hydra> <4DF049AC.3050403@radel.com> <20110609052113.GA4291@thought.org> <20110609053430.GA30732@guilt.hydra> <20110609183304.GB8057@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110609183304.GB8057@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Long Day's Journey into X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:53:18 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 11:33:04AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 11:34:30PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > >=20 > > . . . but Cisco switches are overpriced crap. We were disconnecting the > > Netgear to replace it with a Cisco that offered a lot more functionalit= y, > > and administration turned out to be a fucking nightmare with that thing. > > It's like replacing Postfix with MS Exchange because you want integrated > > calendaring and all the other crap in the BusinessWeek full-page ad, th= en > > finding out that you basically need a full-time employee just to manage > > that one server. >=20 > LOL, man. But then, your troubles were at work, right? I mean > somewhere that has dozens or more people, users/computers going > thru the switch [?] Years ago I had as many a 6 > computers--including my daughter's ancient W2K on a Kayak and > wife's work laptop and my several tower and laptops going thru > the 16-porter. *Still*, I don't care, the daamn thing should=20 > have lasted longer than it did. =20 Actually, that was when I was the first and only paid employee of the Wikimedia Foundation. Everybody else was Jimmy Wales, his assistant at Bomis, and volunteers who "worked" with us remotely -- plus the whole Internet using Wikipedia. So, yeah . . . "dozens of people" sending traffic through the switch is a gross understatement. The switches I mentioned that I've had die off one port at a time, though, were not at the Wikimedia Foundation. They were my personal kit for my home networks over the years and, in one case, the main switch at a small consultancy where I was the Unix guru. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3xEyAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXDUQCeK3gYHAl8o4KxW1/S+a3L93Q1 DOgAnjoRh1r5bbtl3PdN7UGC23y61vyi =xGF/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o--