From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 24 08:43:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE91B16A41F for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:43:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C7843D48 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:43:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26E114BE87; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:43:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pastinakel.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 50581-01-3; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A7614BE11; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7O8c2qm073996; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:38:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:38:02 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Stefan Ehmann Message-ID: <20050824083802.GG67999@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <17161.55733.272571.61428@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20050822140150.GB27233@raqdevil.offmyserver.com> <20050822185748.22499.qmail@paladin.fortunaty.net> <20050823124028.GA67999@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <1124872145.1476.5.camel@taxman.pepperland> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GpGaEY17fSl8rd50" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1124872145.1476.5.camel@taxman.pepperland> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tue.nl Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Andreas Hauser , Eric Anderson , "Devon H.O'Dell" , Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: fontsize and dpi (was Re: Beta2: Nice job!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:43:38 -0000 --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [once again to -chat] On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 10:29:04AM +0200, Stefan Ehmann wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 14:40 +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 06:57:48PM -0000, Andreas Hauser wrote: > > > dodell wrote @ Mon, 22 Aug 2005 07:01:50 -0700: > > > > They all use Bitstream Vera at a > ridiculously small font size > > >=20 > > > startx -- -dpi 100 > > > better ? > >=20 > > Why this isn't already the default is beyond me... Or am I miscalculati= ng > > dpi with the standard 1280x1024 17" flatpanel? >=20 > I find 100 dpi unusable on my 1280x1024 17" TFT (which is the default > here). >=20 > Most applications pretty much ignore those settings. But e.g. konqueror > fonts are ridiculously big. I forced it back to 75dpi via DisplaySize in > my xorg.conf and it looks much better for me. Yes, but you are still lying to X. Your display (at that resolution) has ~100dpi. If you want smaller font sizes, say so in the KDE control panel. If you want the default changed, convince more people to run their desktop at the right DPI, and see whether they notice the same. I don't know when X gained the capability to decipher this on its own, but I know that lots of people were running with 75dpi on 100dpi monitors, resulting in horrible default fonts etc. One of the problems with webpages in *nix vs Windows, differing fontsizes, is caused by exactly this. --Stijn --=20 "I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get." --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDDDHqY3r/tLQmfWcRAhpxAJ0QO++7EcUvND9ThkK3O/EhgEewJgCeMuyp z/fARBKSLBoCMsBfzYTIzrg= =s1DF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50--