From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 9 18:58:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E22B106566C for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492BC8FC1C for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC9FEE8061A; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:58:01 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Theodor Ciobanu Message-ID: <20110609185801.GC8057@thought.org> References: <20110609005656.GA9183@thought.org> <20110609035313.GA30448@guilt.hydra> <4DF049AC.3050403@radel.com> <20110609052113.GA4291@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long Day's Journey into X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:58:02 -0000 On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 10:31:30AM +0300, Theodor Ciobanu wrote: > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:31:30 +0300 > From: Theodor Ciobanu > Subject: Re: Long Day's Journey into > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:21:13 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > I figured, hey, solid- state will work forever and 20 years, > > whichever comes first. ... > > Unfortunately, from experience, no moving parts (if that's what you > mean my solid-state; if not, disregard the rest of this mail :) ) > doesn't equal non-failure. Just a bit less likely to fail. PSUs still > die on you, capacitors still "blow up", microchips still get fried if > not properly cooled, flash memory "wears out" etc. > > I've had all sorts of switches die on me in strage ways, a couple of > them the same way it happened to you (they suddenly refused to switch > packets). > > Currently I'm in the middle of replacing three ProCurve switches > (oldest one bought within a year) because the NVRAM became read-only > all of a sudden. I really hope the service guys will be able to tell me > what happened (if it was an environment issue, firmware bug, a bad > batch of chips...). Jeez! I'm going to save this mail in my ~/warning.info file. [They say you can't learn from others' experiences, but in some cases, like your note above, it is possible; thanks for your data points.] If nothing ever wore out, where would our global consumer-society be! I'm planning on upgrading my harddrive in a year or so. I was hoping for the SSD to be further along... . Maybe I'll shoot for 2015. Luck+ with your NVRAM problem. never heard of that one... . gary > > > Regards, > > -- > Theo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org