From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 17:29:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1885C37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CA5043FAF for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 23803 invoked by uid 65534); 3 Jun 2003 00:29:11 -0000 Received: from pD950A2F2.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.80.162.242) by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 03 Jun 2003 02:29:11 +0200 Received: from kiste.my.domain (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h530T5np005259 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Jun 2003 02:29:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: kde@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 02:29:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_Qv+2+klZSyNfvad"; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200306030229.04850.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: x11/kde3 - Please end the bikeshedding. X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 00:29:35 -0000 --Boundary-02=_Qv+2+klZSyNfvad Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline All the points have been made in my and Will's previous replies, but to=20 summarize: 1.) The updated metaport restores historical behaviour. 2.) A metaport is supposed to provide something complete. It is not suppose= d=20 to simplify updating or to be ports-in-ports subsystem. This metaport does= =20 provide the complete K Desktop Environment, nothing more, nothing less.=20 Because of the ports-system inherent difficulties with all metaports, we=20 actually ***encourage users to pkg_delete kde3*** once they are comfortable= =20 with their customized KDE installation. 3.) There were user complaints about the previous situation. People were no= t=20 always happy with the choice that was made about what the KDE metaport shou= ld=20 consist of. They were right. KDE is defined by the KDE project. The new=20 metaport provides KDE as defined by the KDE project. 4.) Look at the kde ports and the metaport carefully. No functionality was= =20 removed today, you can still install a minimal or whatever customized kde=20 from packages or ports without any additonal hassle. In fact, we _added_ a= =20 feature: The MINIMAL_KDE variable. Thus: The changes will not be reverted, nor augmented or reduced. Further=20 bikeshedding over this is unnecessary and will only produce mailing list=20 noise. On behalf of the KDE FreeBSD team, =2D-=20 | Michael Nottebrock | KDE on FreeBSD | ,ww | | michaelnottebrock@gmx.net | --- | ,wWWCybaWW_) | | --- | http://freebsd.kde.org | free `WSheepW' | | http://tigress.com/lofi | --- | node II II | --Boundary-02=_Qv+2+klZSyNfvad Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+2+vQXhc68WspdLARAszTAKCLqdrtFRbBRzSGiDIHh9sYVqB5VwCgoLI5 Ej9iM3nEj4v48HYIdlPvi8Q= =VuR1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_Qv+2+klZSyNfvad--