From owner-cvs-all Mon Oct 9 14: 2: 2 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CC437B66D; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 80028239A67; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:01:58 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Doug Barton , Jordan Hubbard , Matt Dillon , Warner Losh , Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf Message-ID: <20001009140158.A66991@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: <521.971068411@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <39E15630.7B4A8FE6@gorean.org> <39E18F50.E7BBCB95@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39E18F50.E7BBCB95@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 06:26:40PM +0900 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-10-09 18:26 +0900, "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: > > > > However, isn't all of this moot in light of the planned (existing?) > > options to sysinstall to specify exactly what to enable? My personal > > feeling is that _everything_ should be off by default (in > > /etc/defaults/rc.conf) and the user should pick specifically what to > > enable. > > Don't go the way of certain Linux distributions, where installation > takes one hour and a half: half an hour to install, and one hour before > that telling it what to install. I think that many are not thinking about the possiblities of the fully package-based system and sysinstall version n+1. Besides specifying exactly what should be installed/enabled (in a "Custom") install, sysinstall can have any number of prepackaged installs, such as "Most Secure" (with nothing running), "Network Secure" (with just sshd), "Home Desktop" (with sshd, ftpd, fingerd, nfsd default exporting to 10.x.x.x, and a medium-security firewall), or any number of other setups. Average Joe, as well as people who know that one of the setups fits their needs exactly, will have a 20-second configuration step. People who like custom, like me (I've _never_ used anything but custom and minimal installs), can spend an hour frobbing before installing. Once the code for selecting individual configuration items is in sysinstall, the code for having prepackaged configuration sets is simplistic. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter I got a 1GHz Athlon for my girlfriend. mailto:gsutter@zer0.org Good trade! http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message