Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:11:20 +1100 From: jonathan michaels <jon@caamora.com.au> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD - A User's Point of View Message-ID: <19990125151120.H18834@caamora.com.au> In-Reply-To: <36ABE1DB.15EFFF9F@newsguy.com>; from Daniel C. Sobral on Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 12:15:39PM %2B0900 References: <19990124201556.E36690@freebie.lemis.com> <199901240949.BAA17434@implode.root.com> <19990124212533.B17658@caamora.com.au> <36AB1B9B.549FDE56@newsguy.com> <19990125084024.C18834@caamora.com.au> <36ABE1DB.15EFFF9F@newsguy.com>
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On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 12:15:39PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > jonathan michaels wrote: > > > > yes, it is starting to look like that. now all i have to do is workout how to > > sell teh 'softupdates' concept to a died in teh wool novell journelling fs > > database manager whose hide has been saved more than once by journelling. > > > > ummm, not an easy task . but we will prevail .. grin. > > If he understand what he is talking about, and if Novell DTRT, you > can't. > > Softupdates will garantee metadata consistency, though our > implementation still depends on fsck to remove partial metadata > commits (these partial commits do *not* leave the fs in an > inconsistent state, mind you). > > If the transaction interface is exported from Novell's jfs to the > application, though, it will garantee application data consistency > as well. In the specific case of databases, this is a MAJOR win. yup, this is what it is all about, rdbms, i'm not sure if its sybase/informix or oracle, but you can build web server database backends and do online maintenance with it (i think this sorta makes it oracle). > If it is not exporting the transaction interface, though, or if the > application is not using it, one would be hard pressed to provide > any advantage of his jfs to our softupdates. I think. :-) as i said, he seems to think its teh onlyway to go, and now with oracle having a linux version, i think thier is a chance to slow the drift to ms win nt. regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia ===========================================================<jon@caamora.com.au> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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