From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 5 22:00:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD77116A4DF for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx23.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDDCF43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:00:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 24750 invoked by uid 399); 5 Sep 2006 22:00:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.10?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2006 22:00:13 -0000 Message-ID: <44FDF36A.3010608@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:00:10 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Elischer References: <200608281545.k7SFjn6l063922@lurza.secnetix.de> <200609020956.54008.Lucas.James@ldjcs.com.au> <20060902031247.GE749@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20060904192006.GA3292@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <44FD994C.70104@errno.com> <44FDEE7C.9060104@FreeBSD.org> <44FDF245.9000302@elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <44FDF245.9000302@elischer.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Garance A Drosehn , Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Adding a '-D date' option to `cat' X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:00:14 -0000 Julian Elischer wrote: > then there will be a bikeshed about adding a new tool ... which can safely be ignored, even if it occurs, because creating new and potentially useful tools always creates less drama then mucking about with old (or really old) ones. I haven't heard anyone say, "No such functionality should exist in FreeBSD," but I have heard several people say "Don't bastardize the Unix model." I even like Sam's proposed name. > Date could have had this feature added in 20 lines of C. > you'd rather create a whole new beaurocracy. What would be really useful here is if the people who want this could focus on the end result (having the tool you need to do the job) rather than the methodology of achieving that result. The door is open, walk through it. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection