From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 24 07:03:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EA65DF for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thucidydes@yahoo.com) Received: from nm40-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B251223 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 07:03:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.169] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 07:03:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1080.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 07:03:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 981731.5025.bm@omp1080.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 57095 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2013 07:03:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1372057380; bh=WjZRtc6Ax35Es2jNuHtg1NtthQTDxuk/1I90bllmfKQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JIxbyhp6lJv+8/7x3Wl4g6t3yg24KroKfRNE/zVrRu9V6PIjJe60VwwmJW4TjpSPJKonxWCgxnyCijYEexYj5Kz3d7k2kxOcWWFSwz2Ys5CPmLzwVR/juwSbbuDXYWAD/r+1t7EWrsdOinIWIYiLSj/VuomTRUiIZGxdsN4Tgoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kOlYZ2YisVoqPmD75PL9eA6mo0gwHtGCXvVng3uCw7+LJPzbX3NPOIc9hH2PoDEjEYauqQWL6LZZmKngtMOOiodS17qlSWETve+3TBxmLqPT9dB0BuJt9LCJKJPJ8mE3dMpbwcBjipgVYjAbUZtR053QcS2FbrgWHseOGd7qt+0=; X-YMail-OSG: w4lxm_8VM1mNoDc4Y4x9rUdtiKasXDeJKJ7vVGF5BaXfjlW LmtUiWoZyIUXbgX.w3H2NzVsqIhtWYEfShIEWQZFWX.t6xSDLQcWTltAtD_. aB1lS59O1pllsW1Q6Yhc.SSLkOd65QncPMbpmsnHSKRjESc2k0OBTOR.n7FH CyEU5eBObROv10W44t45FAMTRM_JTi0BWoTDL9Gcfw5CGoamTaBJzKzAAJwp SG9IhTWtviNeEznIq8omZt.x14HwvWeQ1BWWbxhlCdjl7pU1OtjRakoV2QE7 GfQ3bRkv7M_7xGiEB_8A0HAQiRIzOLQY8ysg4mqNjU.U2wZxgNG_rkSj7lyl l1ZVT.nQc4ApLzFD9kqbZktv2y15EULYEsUG8Hm.AlhF04jltQ9i.oJD0osG EcFHW3AxSlvTgZo2I9KG5ZPlstYT55rrbYNiuscnaHxKLkz8F659ZChVwBWh irOHlV0hXPpaSvmLi6JreILIwo4g_f0j5.z9gmwEG_LA5Kt6mPFc2wIcMi52 fFXS8PREincQdSTBNkbSIBa_9mM5VTy9otjeN Received: from [68.27.2.150] by web120504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 00:02:57 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gbG9va2luZyBmb3IgYWdlcyBmb3IgYSBzaW1wbGUgc3lzdGVtIG9uIHdoaWNoIHRvIGRvIHRoZSBmb2xsb3dpbmc6LQ0KDQphLiBVbml4LUJhc2VkLg0KYi4gRG8gUHJvZ3JhbW1pbmcgaW4gQy4gKEkgbGlrZSBnZWRpdCBpZiBwb3NzaWJsZSkuDQpjLiBYZmNlIGFzIEdVSS4NCmQuIFByb2R1Y3Rpb24gV29yazotDQoNCjEuIE9wZW5PZmZpY2UgKG5vdCBMaWJyZU9mZmljZSkuDQoyLiBUaGUgR0lNUC4NCjMuIElua3NjYXBlLg0KNC4gU29tZXRoaW5nIHdpdGggQ0FEIGFuZCAzLUQgUmVuZGUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/206 YahooMailWebService/0.8.148.554 Message-ID: <1372057377.55381.YahooMailBasic@web120504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 00:02:57 -0700 (PDT) From: -Edwin Hale Subject: Is There Any Buyable Laptop for FreeBSD 9.1 That Is Simple to Set Up? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:03:07 -0000 I have been looking for ages for a simple system on which to do the followi= ng:- a. Unix-Based. b. Do Programming in C. (I like gedit if possible). c. Xfce as GUI. d. Production Work:- 1. OpenOffice (not LibreOffice). 2. The GIMP. 3. Inkscape. 4. Something with CAD and 3-D Rendering. 5. Film and Sound Editing. 6. Databases: PostgreSL, MySQL, and db2.e.=20 7. Internet Work, including uploads to my website with FTP, my web host usi= ng the latest version of Apache. f. Good Graphics and Media. g. Good wireless connectivity through an external hotspot - currently using= Sprint (not the best or the worst) 3G (more reliable than 4G) OverdrivePro= but may upgrade when something better appears. If I did not have to travel a good deal, I should be content with a desktop= computer, but cannot escape from laptops. I have tried many versions of Linux and some of the offshoots of FreeBSD, a= nd only FreeBSD and DragonflyBSD seem close to what I think is best. FreeBS= D wins because DragonflyBSD is just too esoteric at the moment. After over a month of effort, I freely confess that installing FreeBSD 9.1 = is beyond my capability. I have a Toshiba Satellite L755 with 32-bit Intel= =C2=AE Core=E2=84=A2 i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz =C3=97 4 Processor at the momen= t, and this is nowhere mentioned on any list of FreeBSD-capable laptops tha= t I can find. Indeed, after ruthlessly searching the web and talking to doz= ens of people, none of whom have any close experience with FreeBSD, it seem= s that there are very few laptops which are capable of trouble-free install= ation of FreeBSD. In the case of my Toshiba Satellite L755, I believe that = the wireless driver is not friendly to the idea. As I currently use Ubuntu = 12.10 (native - wiped it in attempted to instal FreeBSD 9.1, and then re-in= stalled after failure of said installation of FreeBSD), I ran the following= command and received:- $ lspci | grep Network 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.1= 1b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) And, running $ iwconfig produces wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"OverdriveProA1F" =20 Mode:Managed Frequency:2.422 GHz Access Point: 84:DB:2F:35:9A:1= F =20 Bit Rate=3D18 Mb/s Tx-Power=3D20 dBm =20 Retry long limit:7 RTS thr=3D2347 B Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality=3D70/70 Signal level=3D-40 dBm =20 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:8 Missed beacon:0 lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. And this:- $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family= DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Pr= ocessor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Ch= ipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Fami= ly USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family= High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family P= CI Express Root Port 1 (rev b4) 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family P= CI Express Root Port 6 (rev b4) 00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family P= CI Express Root Port 7 (rev b4) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Fami= ly USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC Contr= oller (rev 04) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Fam= ily 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus = Controller (rev 04) 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.1= 1b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8152 v2.0 Fast E= thernet (rev c1) Well, the installation of FreeBSD floundered at the configuration stage of = the GUI, and then stopped at the command line when the ports could not be i= nstalled because of lack of connectivity. Oh, well - no need to waste time discussing this because my present compute= r is not good enough in other respects for what I should like to do. Therefore, my question is ultimately:- Is there any 17"64-bit laptop that will readily support FreeBSD 9.1 with wi= reless connectivity to an external hotspot? Many thanks.