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Date:      Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:21:48 -0500
From:      Jim Pirzyk <pirzyk@freeBSD.org>
To:        Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD Errata Notice FreeBSD-EN-14:11.crypt
Message-ID:  <AC160955-2FEC-49FA-9E1F-B4DE948DCF00@freeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <op.xn8j96kqkndu52@ronaldradial.radialsg.local>
References:  <201410222107.s9ML7nLC010739@freefall.freebsd.org> <F0DAE32B-34CF-4191-9070-A517ACDC6E2A@freeBSD.org> <op.xn8j96kqkndu52@ronaldradial.radialsg.local>

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I think this should be reopened and reverted.  This is the wrong answer =
and has not taken into account the history of crypt() on FreeBSD.  I =
point you to the svn log:

http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3D4246

and

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/2.0/notes.html

If password security for FreeBSD is all you need, and you have no
requirement for copying encrypted passwords from different hosts (Suns,
DEC machines, etc) into FreeBSD password entries, then FreeBSD's MD5
based security may be all you require!  We feel that our default =
security
model is more than a match for DES, and without any messy export issues
to deal with.  If you're outside (or even inside) the U.S., give it a =
try!

We are reversing 20+ years of FreeBSD progress.

- JimP

On Oct 24, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> wrote:

> See: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D192277
>=20
> Regards,
> Ronald.
>=20
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:14:20 +0200, Jim Pirzyk <pirzyk@freebsd.org> =
wrote:
>=20
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> I was wondering if there is more information about this change?  =
FreeBSD changed the default away from DES to MD5 back in the 1.1.5 -> =
2.0 transition.  It seems to me a downgrade and rewarding bad =
programming to be changing back to DES now.  Also the proper course of =
action is to correct programs that make the wrong assumption about what =
crypt() changes.
>>=20
>> Thanks
>>=20
>> - JimP
>>=20
>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 4:07 PM, FreeBSD Errata Notices =
<errata-notices@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Signed PGP part
>>> =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D
>>> FreeBSD-EN-14:11.crypt                                          =
Errata Notice
>>>                                                          The FreeBSD =
Project
>>>=20
>>> Topic:          crypt(3) default hashing algorithm
>>>=20
>>> Category:       core
>>> Module:         libcrypt
>>> Announced:      2014-10-22
>>> Affects:        FreeBSD 9.3 and FreeBSD 10.0-STABLE after 2014-05-11 =
and
>>>                before 2014-10-16.
>>> Corrected:      2014-10-13 15:56:47 UTC (stable/10, 10.1-PRERELEASE)
>>>                2014-10-16 21:39:04 UTC (releng/10.1, 10.1-RC3)
>>>                2014-10-16 21:39:04 UTC (releng/10.1, 10.1-RC2-p2)
>>>                2014-10-16 21:39:04 UTC (releng/10.1, 10.1-RC1-p2)
>>>                2014-10-16 21:39:04 UTC (releng/10.1, 10.1-BETA3-p2)
>>>                2014-10-21 21:09:54 UTC (stable/9, 9.3-STABLE)
>>>                2014-10-21 23:50:46 UTC (releng/9.3, 9.3-RELEASE-p4)
>>>=20
>>> For general information regarding FreeBSD Errata Notices and =
Security
>>> Advisories, including descriptions of the fields above, security
>>> branches, and the following sections, please visit
>>> <URL:http://security.freebsd.org/>.
>>>=20
>>> I.   Background
>>>=20
>>> The crypt(3) function performs password hashing.  Different =
algorithms
>>> of varying strength are available, with older, weaker algorithms =
being
>>> retained for compatibility.
>>>=20
>>> The crypt(3) function was originally based on the DES encryption
>>> algorithm and generated a 13-character hash from an eight-character
>>> password (longer passwords were truncated) and a two-character salt.
>>>=20
>>> II.  Problem Description
>>>=20
>>> In recent FreeBSD releases, the default algorithm for crypt(3) was
>>> changed to SHA-512, which generates a much longer hash than the
>>> traditional DES-based algorithm.
>>>=20
>>> III. Impact
>>>=20
>>> Many applications assume that crypt(3) always returns a traditional =
DES
>>> hash, and blindly copy it into a short buffer without bounds checks. =
This
>>> may lead to a variety of undesirable results including, at worst, =
crashing
>>> the application.
>>>=20
>>> IV.  Workaround
>>>=20
>>> No workaround is available.
>>>=20
>>> V.   Solution
>>>=20
>>> Perform one of the following:
>>>=20
>>> 1) Upgrade your system to a supported FreeBSD stable or release / =
security
>>> branch (releng) dated after the correction date.
>>>=20
>>> 2) To update your present system via a source code patch:
>>>=20
>>> The following patches have been verified to apply to the applicable
>>> FreeBSD release branches.
>>>=20
>>> a) Download the relevant patch from the location below, and verify =
the
>>> detached PGP signature using your PGP utility.
>>>=20
>>> # fetch http://security.FreeBSD.org/patches/EN-14:11/crypt.patch
>>> # fetch http://security.FreeBSD.org/patches/EN-14:11/crypt.patch.asc
>>> # gpg --verify crypt.patch.asc
>>>=20
>>> b) Apply the patch.  Execute the following commands as root:
>>>=20
>>> # cd /usr/src
>>> # patch < /path/to/patch
>>>=20
>>> c) Recompile the operating system using buildworld and installworld =
as
>>> described in <URL:http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/makeworld.html>.
>>>=20
>>> Restart all deamons using the library, or reboot the system.
>>>=20
>>> 3) To update your system via a binary patch:
>>>=20
>>> Systems running a RELEASE version of FreeBSD on the i386 or amd64
>>> platforms can be updated via the freebsd-update(8) utility:
>>>=20
>>> # freebsd-update fetch
>>> # freebsd-update install
>>>=20
>>> VI.  Correction details
>>>=20
>>> The following list contains the revision numbers of each file that =
was
>>> corrected in FreeBSD.
>>>=20
>>> Branch/path                                                      =
Revision
>>> =
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> stable/9/                                                         =
r273425
>>> releng/9.3/                                                       =
r273438
>>> stable/10/                                                        =
r273043
>>> releng/10.1/                                                      =
r273187
>>> =
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>=20
>>> To see which files were modified by a particular revision, run the
>>> following command, replacing NNNNNN with the revision number, on a
>>> machine with Subversion installed:
>>>=20
>>> # svn diff -cNNNNNN --summarize svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
>>>=20
>>> Or visit the following URL, replacing NNNNNN with the revision =
number:
>>>=20
>>> <URL:http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3DNNNNNN>=

>>>=20
>>> VII. References
>>>=20
>>> The latest revision of this Errata Notice is available at
>>> http://security.FreeBSD.org/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-14:11.crypt.asc
>>>=20
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> freebsd-announce@freebsd.org mailing list
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce
>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to =
"freebsd-announce-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>=20
>> --- @(#) $Id: dot.signature,v 1.15 2007/12/27 15:06:13 pirzyk Exp $
>>    __o  jim@pirzyk.org =
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>> _'\<,_
>> (*)/ (*) I'd rather be out biking.

--- @(#) $Id: dot.signature,v 1.15 2007/12/27 15:06:13 pirzyk Exp $
    __o  jim@pirzyk.org =
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 _'\<,_
(*)/ (*) I'd rather be out biking.


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