From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 9 20:13:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F6A106567E; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7168FC16; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 20:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2EDBAE8061A; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:13:30 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: reese@adeptscience.com Message-ID: <20110609201330.GG8057@thought.org> References: <20110609005656.GA9183@thought.org> <4DF0745E.5201.47FBA82A@reese.adeptscience.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4DF0745E.5201.47FBA82A@reese.adeptscience.com> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Long Day's Journey into X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:13:31 -0000 On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 07:21:02AM -0400, reese@adeptscience.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 07:21:02 -0400 > From: reese@adeptscience.com > Subject: Re: Long Day's Journey into > To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gary Kline , > FreeBSD Mailing List > X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) > > Not a switch but I have had a router and two PCs just die in the last > year. I know the agony of having to restore things that weren't > broken as I went through that with the router. I hate to have to fix > things that I broke trying to find out what was broke, as bad as > having to rewrite code after you have a working system and > your drive fails without a backup. > > This to shall pass. > > Charlie > In November, '99 an almost-new 9.1G harddrive krapped out during a power-out, On, Out, then On. All within seven seconds. It was a new machine, not yet plugged into my surge-protector. It was SCSI drive and it was dead. I had a 4mm tape drive, but part of it overwrote itself so I lost more than 6 months' of stuff. I'm still not completely over that loss. ...WEll, then again, at least I've quit drinking two fifths of JD every night! ==just another one of those oh-shit episodes. gary > > > > On 9 Jun 2011 at 3:45, Bill Tillman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Gary Kline > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 8:56:59 PM > > Subject: Long Day's Journey into > > > > > > Well, people, > > > > It's been a long, long century.  I've been down for 5 days. > > Couldn't understand _why_ I couldn't ping anywhere [expect the > > Server itself].  Finally, tho, it became more and more likely that > > my FreeBSD was fine ... even tho I kept stripping the most likely > > problem points.  My large 16-port LinkSys router was either *it* or > > it was some kind of bug unknown to geekdom.  After a friend bought > > me a new (and tiny) 8-port switch, yes!  I could ping everywhere.  > > > > I'm still bringing back the dozens of things I removed from ethic. > > And testing new ideas.  But I have a general question: have any of > > you wizards who run your own domains or otherwise use a switch [or > > hub] *ever* had it just-quit?!  It is solid-state.  Yes, the box is > > within my feet/foot reach.  I have accidently kicked it i suppose, > > but still.  > > > > After wandering in the wilderness for 5 days, <>, dunno.  > > > > gary > > > > PS: yes, this is a serious question.  1) I like things-Cisco, and > > LinkSys.  I just bought this switch about 2.5 years ago, so I really > > am looking for feedback. > > > > PPS:  Another question to ask about upgrading is next. > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kline  kline@thought.org  http://www.thought.org  Public Service Unix > >           Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org > >           The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > Good to hear you're back on line. But to answer your question about parts going > > bad. I haven't had much go bad on me in the last 10 years but back in the 1990's > > when I was doing pure IT work and was making lots of purchases of parts I did. > > Now you have to remember that back then a 28.8 modem cost $375 and cell phones > > were only in the hands of the very rich and very important. I could buy parts > > and sometimes find them defective out of the box. Others would work fine. > > > > Today, I haven't bought many new components because everything is working. My > > switch has been operating fine for the last five years. I replaced my FreeBSD > > sever a few years ago. It was a P166 with 96MB RAM and it had been running > > almost non-stop, 24/7 for 12 years. But then I had another machine right next to > > it that I built in 2002 and it whimped out only a couple of years later and I > > hardly ever ran that machine. > > > > > > In today's world, I would say that the majority of the parts you buy will be > > good to go, but that's why parts only come with a 90 or 1 year warranty. The > > manufacturers know when to back off their guarantees on electronic components. > > O.M.G.: my switch only came with a 30-day return. i haven't checked the warantee, tho. -g I remember the 28.8's .... not the price being > $300. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org