From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Fri Aug 21 03:35:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F152F9BECF0 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net (wsip-70-169-168-7.pn.at.cox.net [70.169.168.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "NewFS.denninger.net", Issuer "NewFS.denninger.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DDE116BF for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fs.denninger.net (8.15.2/8.14.8) with ESMTP id t7L3Zqev080170 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:35:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl@denninger.net) Received: from [192.168.1.40] [192.168.1.40] (Via SSLv3 AES128-SHA) ; by Spamblock-sys (LOCAL/AUTH) Thu Aug 20 22:35:53 2015 Message-ID: <55D69C73.9030909@denninger.net> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:35:15 -0500 From: Karl Denninger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ue0/ue1 flapping References: <55D6217B.8000805@denninger.net> <55D636FE.9020005@xs4all.nl> <55D64AA7.40305@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <55D64AA7.40305@denninger.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040401070402040801010709" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:35:56 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040401070402040801010709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/20/2015 16:46, Karl Denninger wrote: > > On 8/20/2015 15:22, Huub Schuurmans wrote: >> Karl Denninger schreef op 20/08/15 om 20:50: >>> Raspberry Pi, FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #0 r285923: Mon Jul 27 22:55:03 CD= T 2015 >>> >>> Two interfaces, the on-board and a Lenovo dongle (as ue1); both are >>> flapping at an irregular rate. >>> >> We have also experienced this flapping with Alix-2d13 boards if two >> usb-lan adapters are in use. One adapter is stable, at least on >> Freebsd9.0 or older. >> On the Alix-board usb-lan adapters do not work at all for FreeBSD >> versions more recent than 9.0 (we tested various adapters with differe= nt >> chips). We don't want to switch to Linux (no problems there as far as = I >> know/have tested) but will abandon usb-interfaces and install managed >> switches. >> >> There is an old bug report about this, but nobody has picked up on it.= >> Use linux or a managed switch. >> >> Huub >> > I have reconfigured to use a managed switch and thus am able to drop > the second phy -- we'll see if that resolves it.... hopefully so. > > --=20 > // Unfortunately, even with only one interface in the machine (two VLANs configured on it); that is, just the internal one, it still flaps. 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