From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 17 16:21:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACB8A85203 for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from iris.ime.usp.br (iris.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9DB115F for ; Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schultz@ime.usp.br) Received: from cage0 (OTWAON234VW-LP140-05-1176444850.dsl.bell.ca [70.31.31.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schultz@iris.ime.usp.br) by iris.ime.usp.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54E1B2900A71; Sun, 17 Jan 2016 14:21:31 -0200 (BRST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ime.usp.br; s=mail; t=1453047695; bh=tt3OG6FSSasFEwmoH+xL9568vJ4sCc8XdBBUw4aAceM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=STi1x60hkoGIuon99ZrcI7lZsI/WDTupl51EiX6TF+2erHgQCCkjKilk3zNQoVVtD ShMX90oWoBU+lMiUvPrqD9s2DP3RqgtT7QXYlFf56DJgF9BEE+jPVY/YJkW2hQVtg+ tvW6OB9Q1vNnlMM7QdUxQKSEG88tXNmSiY2MKHfM= Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:20:18 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lu=EDs?= Fernando Schultz Xavier da Silveira To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unexpected dependencies of graphics/libGL Message-Id: <20160117162018.964db3b1f2f2133242773e78@ime.usp.br> In-Reply-To: <20160117070715.1c33732b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20160117031923.ce1f36547351bf07b6fff9a0@ime.usp.br> <20160117070715.1c33732b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.3 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on iris.ime.usp.br X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:21:39 -0000 Hi, To me, using ports is a must. What I have been doing is not updating the offending ports. This is not only annoying but also not a proper solution. I think I will send an email to the maintainer of the port. Thank you, Lu=EDs Fernando On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 07:07:15 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 03:19:23 +0000, Lu=EDs Fernando Schultz Xavier da Sil= veira wrote: > > Since the beginning of this year, graphics/libGL and friends started > > depending on a significant amount of software, including git and bzr. > > Could anyone explain why that is and whether it is possible to avoid > > such dependencies? > >=20 > > Also, there is a dependency on clang and llvm from ports because of > > advanced features that I (and I guess many of us) do not require. > > I believe it has to do with the Gallium driver and OpenCL. > >=20 > > Just a suggestion: it would be pretty nice if there were some port > > knobs to avoid pulling in another toolchain from ports to build > > software that is never run. >=20 > Is installing from a package an option for you? In this case > only the run dependencies will be installed, the build dependencies > will be left out. I can imagine that some software vendors put > everything on the build dependencies list they typically find > on developers' Linux systems (git to check out code, a "custom" > compiler, maybe a whole document processing system for the creation > of the documentation, and so on), but on FreeBSD those maybe are > not needed, so using a package might not "pollute" your system > with stuff you don't need. >=20 > Usually a port _does_ have configuration options to avoid this, > but as I said: If the maintainer considers certain software > essential for building, the required stuff is not optional > anymore - no matter if the programs in question are _actually > being used_ or not... >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >=20