Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:14:33 +0100 From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email push and pull (was Re: matthew dillon) Message-ID: <a05200f4fba70847460b3@[10.0.1.2]> In-Reply-To: <3E4A83BC.8A15E7C3@mindspring.com> References: <20030211032932.GA1253@papagena.rockefeller.edu> <a05200f2bba6e8fc03a0f@[10.0.1.2]> <3E498175.295FC389@mindspring.com> <a05200f38ba6f51f20eff@[10.0.1.2]> <3E49C434.D8D497EE@mindspring.com> <a05200f44ba6fe5dff1a0@[10.0.1.2]> <3E4A83BC.8A15E7C3@mindspring.com>
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At 9:26 AM -0800 2003/02/12, Terry Lambert wrote:
>> In what way does IMAP4 need to be changed?
>
> Add domain support. There is no support in it in the login
> process, which asks only username and password. The trick of
> specifying "username@domain" will not work for a number of mail
> clients, such as some versions Netscape, strip trailing "@*"
> before sending it to the server, on the assumption that they
> know better than you do.
Certainly, you could pass pretty much whatever you want. The
issue is whether or not the IMAP server understands the @domain
portion.
This problem is already solved -- check out Perdition.
> Well, the "OP" in this case is actually a reference to a DJB
> document, and what we're interested in here is solving the
> problem. We don't have to accept both the data store and the
> "don't send messages" parts of the document, all or nothing.
Well, if we're interested in solving the problem and not
necessarily accepting the entire document as specified, then we might
as well throw the whole thing away.
I can't see any way to apply any part of this proposal and make it work.
> No, you'd direct-send notices. You'd flood-fill the messages
> the notices referred to, to address the scalability and availability
> problems, and to partially address the "revisionist history" and
> "delete before receipt" problems.
You can do this today. Send an e-mail and tell people to go read
a specific USENET news message. Doesn't work too well.
--
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
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