From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 21:06:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D911271548 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x131.google.com (mail-lf1-x131.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::131]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48vCCH3J0Qz40t4 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x131.google.com with SMTP id s13so6935463lfb.9 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:06:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=6+3JRqkUdRL8kM4NMVB4MMcKTE9LdLqm3wB6cTR1AEM=; b=lKyw2wFUU60v5xZAqk39az/wlo+7K1S9+iQSFvXs8qLpJSJlxBR1PVX3PlmIrKQ0YE m56VsPayTpPitLU0pmi+uhXoT4JJpQsVqde6JirR8s2/+TMTybqM+qCt5G+uJYChLo+b U6xnVJR52wtOwGTpKZBQoprGoTmoHPN4A0GDQUCfqMkvxzb//PxwEyfhX7jmF+MP6BVU adr/RiaWXkqRm4li/roE5gJZj0L5RIixTFOEST7mg4YIBkBHthBWe/fBYmJ5cm/qDVsg qugw3mx8Jx3ffdiirF/p6eavjfe2/Qz2RCmMqO5ETKOfS6Qe8PlmsaBm1mpr6qE2SeB8 XZJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6+3JRqkUdRL8kM4NMVB4MMcKTE9LdLqm3wB6cTR1AEM=; b=B8LvM/SOXLQHi4jMidsuDZy/L5kNqYOZO8op3HrB0DrUNm8Yfjhgt9vGN84V+pcBM4 sUt5TQB2epJtuapmLPqaFDDvuI27dpPYe2Xa99LPky/W+OCVovInpmcKbjBUH+HAOS9b HHeP0Q8yOne2JuD7adp+6LzGUAUw21A0kCqOtLteP9OVsAC+K054VVs2MCwyzBfNXpBX 3czoBklbEeV6pdso8gn75+6ic5La1cudZoNog/UUabbJYcXJyRGLWbkIHTYro+zg47At aBl9TMKNqeoE1hD4hXNmxgD48dj501Q9NpA/v4ivkPIOWlxrCph3i+gFmFXb2b/14R/q zQGQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pubn76wy75Dz4XplyjRvdcMi/fZcNwRt9kSeU3KdZsC0UnhedW5M bKSAtCh1UcCoixCxt2i8kH7XNuCIPTPXVVWHZBp3WdDqcj6yNQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypI05oY9AYN1pLbJOu82pBWSueTlvPEC0coLRcHDvkuB5Em8PHPQNxmKVz9ihu+PrGXjN8He9SIQ4Qw3OpQ0vfI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:1082:: with SMTP id j2mr6769178lfg.53.1585947951572; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3A0517C5-4D91-4DAB-94B9-35BD58E47FA5@exonetric.com> In-Reply-To: <3A0517C5-4D91-4DAB-94B9-35BD58E47FA5@exonetric.com> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 17:05:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bastille vs. iocage vs.CBSD opinions? To: Mark Blackman Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48vCCH3J0Qz40t4 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=lKyw2wFU; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::131 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aimass@yabarana.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.32)[ip: (-8.76), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.36), asn: 15169(-0.44), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 21:06:16 -0000 On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:57 PM Mark Blackman wrote: > > > > On 3 Apr 2020, at 21:48, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > I'm having a hard time picking between these three. > > Just want to get a general pulse on the long-time experts here. > > No intention to create any flame wars, just objective comments pls. > > For what? Technically, you can get by entirely without them. > > CI/CD pipelines, Orchestration etc. Of course, you can write your own using FBSD jail primitives but why would you want to, if these projects seem to be doing just that ?