From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 4 16:47:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7779637B405 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F182D6A953; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:17:30 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:17:30 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Drew Derbyshire Cc: Darryl Okahata , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Vinum vs. hardware RAID (was: RAID5) Message-ID: <20010905091730.O85816@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010903142145.K10812-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> <200109041749.KAA12474@mina.soco.agilent.com> <20010905084245.H85816@wantadilla.lemis.com> <02ab01c1359b$69ea4b90$94cba8c0@xena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <02ab01c1359b$69ea4b90$94cba8c0@xena>; from avatar+aug2001@kew.com on Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 07:43:35PM -0400 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 4 September 2001 at 19:43:35 -0400, Drew Derbyshire wrote: >>> My issues with vinum are: >>> >>> [ Note: it's been a year or two since I've used vinum, and so the >>> following may be out-of-date. Corrections appreciated. ] >>> >>> * Once set up, vinum works well, but it takes a lot of hard reading to >>> set up. The actual work itself is not hard, mind you, but it's >>> difficult to figure out what you need to put into the config file. >> >> I've added sample configs to the man page. People still have trouble, >> but none of them seem to have read that section of the man page. > > Is this 4.3 man page or have there been additional changes since then? It > appears the last update was in April, which is previous to my own > experience. No, it hasn't changed since then. > When I read the vinum man page while setting up two systems in June, the > examples were unclear because the parameters in the examples were not > explained well. I'm open to feedback on what parameters haven't been explained well, and where. >>> I had /usr on a vinum-controlled partition, and upgrading FreeBSD >>> via CDs was a royal pain. I basically had to do the upgrade to >>> the root drive (moving /usr out of the way, rebuild the kernel >>> with vinum, reboot, and then copy/move the contents of /usr into >>> the vinum-controlled /usr -- bleah). >>> >>> [ Today, I should be able to kldload vinum, but I don't think I can do >>> this at install time from the CDROM, and so I'd still have to play >>> games with /usr. ] >> >> Yes, currently installing on Vinum is a pain. But vinum(8) loads the >> kld automatically, and I suspect that you should be able to load it >> during the installation process. The problem is that sysinstall >> doesn't know about Vinum. > > This is a critical issue for a binary upgrade when /usr lives on a vinum > volume. Is there an open PR on it? (And no, I don't expect it fixed in > 4.4!) No, not that I know of. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message