From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jan 7 04:40:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA21806 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:40:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp3.portal.net.au [202.12.71.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA21768 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00279; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:03:57 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199801071233.XAA00279@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Alfred Perlstein" cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, "Capriotti" Subject: Re: X based Free installation In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jan 1998 06:21:37 CDT." <199801070725.HAA15251@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 23:03:56 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Maybe if you could use libvgl something or other, it uses the VGA hardware > which is on almost any system. this would make it so that anyone with a > vga card could install freebsd instead of anyone with a vga card supported > by Xfree... One paragraph higlighting the technical (as opposed to practical) fallacies behind all this crap. - VGA hardware is not "on almost any system". Especially as you move into really serious applications, fewer systems have any display hardware at all. - XFree supports "generic" VGA cards just fine. In addition, there are perfectly adequate X servers for PC hardware that would let you use other systems for the bringup. The *real* problem, as Jordan has pointed out, is that there are far too many of you willing to crap on at great length about how wonderful this would be. And nobody with the conviction to actually *DO* something about it. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\