Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:35:33 -0600 From: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org, core@freebsd.org, rwatson@freebsd.org, Ingo Schwarze <schwarze@usta.de>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No Blob without Puffy Message-ID: <200703200735.l2K7ZXd2032713@cvs.openbsd.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:07:19 BST." <20070320070719.GD28076@garage.freebsd.pl>
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Please take this up on lists where it is more relevant. OpenBSD is not going to participate in a campaign that calls non-free things free. We don't tell lies like the other BSD's do. > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:04:12PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > Hi Pawel, > > > > Pawel Jakub Dawidek schrieb am Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:02:47PM +0100: > > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:38:05PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > > >> So isn't it rather hypocritical to have a anti-Blob campaign, backed > > >> by projects which embrace the Blob? > > > > > So isn't it rather hypocritical to claim GPL license is bad and BSD > > > license is good and ship operating system with GPLed code? > > > How do you feel about having pro-GPL operating system? Why do you lie to > > > your users by having 'BSD' in operating system's name? > > > > Your analogy does not apply at all: > [...] > > Unfortunately you miss the point of my analogy. We have GPLed code. We > would like to get rid of it, but this is not possible just yet. Does > that automatically means that we are pro-GPL? That we lie having 'BSD' > in OS name? No, it means this is one of our goals, it is just not high > priority and we don't feel guilty. This is how it is. The same for > binary-only drivers. We would love to have everything open-source, but > this is not possible currently. We want to move in this direction, of > course, but we also want our users to use their hardware, to have > stable, scalable OS, etc. I'm one of those users with my atheros-based > wireless card I'm using right now. I know what I'm doing. I don't feel > less safe. I don't audit every single driver I use. And I'm happy to use > OS which gives me the choice. > > Hearing all those insults from Theo about all those great BSD people is > just sad. Sam Leffler is one of the most valuable open-source developers > in the history of BSD and UNIX in general, keep that in mind. I just > can't belive how easy people forget about all this. Ah, right, this is > called fanaticism. > > -- > Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl > pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] >
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